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Old 10-29-2014, 02:01 PM
 
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as a general rule, pay is determined by the marketplace. you could look at what someone is paid for equal work/education/experience etc. in the private sector. ultimately, you could pay less and less until you find that your compensation isnt enough to attract qualified candidates (when you are starting from the high end). thats basically how we determine pay at work, what must you pay in order to hire and retain the employees you need.
Exactly. There's no "set pay" for anyone. That's why it's called "market forces." Trust me, $90,000 for a PE teacher is stupid. And if people are like "how so?" then by definition they are also stupid. I feel very comfortable in saying that, by the way.
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:01 PM
 
Location: NJ
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It's kind of tough to do with teachers though isn't it? The number of public school jobs will always far outweigh the number of private school jobs even in a state like NJ with a lot of private schools, which will skew the numbers.
its not really that difficult if someone was to make a real effort at it. you dont only have to look at private school teachers, you can look at equivalent people. i hire people for x position but i am aware that there are many other positions they can take that i am competing with as far as compensation is concerned even if they are totally different jobs.

and to my other point, if you are flooded with job applicants; you are probably paying too much. if you cant fill your open positions, you may be paying too little.
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:03 PM
 
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I agree wih that Captain.
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:10 PM
 
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and to my other point, if you are flooded with job applicants; you are probably paying too much. if you cant fill your open positions, you may be paying too little.
You know somewhere someone's mind is exploding like "wha --? KABOOM!!"
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:43 PM
 
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Exactly. There's no "set pay" for anyone. That's why it's called "market forces." Trust me, $90,000 for a PE teacher is stupid. And if people are like "how so?" then by definition they are also stupid. I feel very comfortable in saying that, by the way.
Well you're new here so the regulars will determine whether or not you're legit or a complete dipsh#t. Judging by your early work it ain't looking so good.
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:44 PM
 
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Well you're new here so the regulars will determine whether or not you're legit or a complete dipsh#t. Judging by your early work it ain't looking so good.
I'd be more concerned if I had any regard for your opinion.
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Old 10-29-2014, 03:00 PM
 
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I wish there was a neg rep button just for newbie turds like you. I'd press it till my fingers went numb.
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Old 10-29-2014, 03:01 PM
 
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I wish there was a neg rep button just for newbie turds like you. I'd press it till my fingers went numb.
I'm sure that would prevent me from sleeping at night. Or something.
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Old 10-29-2014, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Randolph, NJ
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I wish there was a neg rep button just for newbie turds like you. I'd press it till my fingers went numb.

Little brushfires often just burn themselves out.
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Old 10-29-2014, 03:50 PM
 
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You basically run it like a private business.
After everything that happened, I am amazed that people still say this. Run the state like which private business? Lehman Brothers, Bear Sterns, Enron... At least state which private business you have in mind.

I doubt you will want any state run like a typical US public company. That will first of all mean that the executive team gets paid obscene amounts of money. Would you like for Christie to make 500 - 800k? Also, imagine what would happen if states laid off the more senior experienced employees and replaced them with younger workers. That will be devastating for the critical services that the state provides...

I am not saying that NJ is run perfectly and I am not a fan of our current governor. But you can not run the state whose main responsibilities are to provide services to people as the for profit private business.
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