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Old 02-13-2008, 08:38 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Bob, I have no facts to back it up. But when the weather in my area is extremely cold the crime rate plummets to almost zero because the bad guys don't go out. Statistic wise our crime rate is very low when the weather is cold. When it warms up the sh$t hits the fan. That stat IMHO is probably pretty much the same in most of the cold, cold cities. If it snows for say 3 days the street crime is almost zero. So some people are assuming that the warmer cities are more capable of having year round crime. Just my 2 1/2 cents.
yeah, that's probably what I heard....
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Old 02-13-2008, 08:43 AM
 
Location: High Bridge
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And why do you find that "interesting"? Do you see some link between the distance to the equator and crime?
People are *really* not going to like this post, but one part is fact, one part is speculation.

Fact: If you look at crime and prison statistics 18 yrs after Roe vs. Wade, you see a downward trend. Legalizing abortion reduced crime. The commonly thought reason is that the majority of unwanted children were in poor areas, and the rapidly increasing population in already poor areas resulted in more crimes to get by.

Speculation: The south, in general, does not look favorably on abortion. This has changed more in recent years, but there is still a stronger Christian movement in the south than anywhere else, more ingrained in the culture, a culture which generally does not approve of abortion.

Thats my theory and I'm sticking to it. Just don't hate me for it.

(Its ok, you really can hate me for it, I don't mind)
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Old 02-13-2008, 08:46 AM
 
Location: NJ
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People are *really* not going to like this post, but one part is fact, one part is speculation.

Fact: If you look at crime and prison statistics 18 yrs after Roe vs. Wade, you see a downward trend. Legalizing abortion reduced crime. The commonly thought reason is that the majority of unwanted children were in poor areas, and the rapidly increasing population in already poor areas resulted in more crimes to get by.

Speculation: The south, in general, does not look favorably on abortion. This has changed more in recent years, but there is still a stronger Christian movement in the south than anywhere else, more ingrained in the culture, a culture which generally does not approve of abortion.

Thats my theory and I'm sticking to it. Just don't hate me for it.

(Its ok, you really can hate me for it, I don't mind)
oh dear. you better don your flame-proof hanes!

(tahiti intently watching this thread now - moderator-finger at the ready....)
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Old 02-13-2008, 08:51 AM
 
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People are *really* not going to like this post, but one part is fact, one part is speculation.

Fact: If you look at crime and prison statistics 18 yrs after Roe vs. Wade, you see a downward trend. Legalizing abortion reduced crime. The commonly thought reason is that the majority of unwanted children were in poor areas, and the rapidly increasing population in already poor areas resulted in more crimes to get by.

Speculation: The south, in general, does not look favorably on abortion. This has changed more in recent years, but there is still a stronger Christian movement in the south than anywhere else, more ingrained in the culture, a culture which generally does not approve of abortion.

Thats my theory and I'm sticking to it. Just don't hate me for it.

(Its ok, you really can hate me for it, I don't mind)
Interesting thought, and there may even be some validity to the speculative part. BTW- we don't hate you, man- this is a place of love, not hate......lol
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Old 02-13-2008, 08:58 AM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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People are *really* not going to like this post, but one part is fact, one part is speculation.

Fact: If you look at crime and prison statistics 18 yrs after Roe vs. Wade, you see a downward trend. Legalizing abortion reduced crime. The commonly thought reason is that the majority of unwanted children were in poor areas, and the rapidly increasing population in already poor areas resulted in more crimes to get by.

Speculation: The south, in general, does not look favorably on abortion. This has changed more in recent years, but there is still a stronger Christian movement in the south than anywhere else, more ingrained in the culture, a culture which generally does not approve of abortion.

Thats my theory and I'm sticking to it. Just don't hate me for it.

(Its ok, you really can hate me for it, I don't mind)

EXCELLENT POST. I used up rep points on you already though.
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:04 AM
 
Location: High Bridge
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Interesting thought, and there may even be some validity to the speculative part.
The speculative part is pure speculation - to be candid, I like the bums in Atlanta. They are helpful, the bums in NYC aren't. So purely based on statistics, would a greater homeless population in Atlanta over NYC be a good thing or a bad thing? Its all speculation on that stuff

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BTW- we don't hate you, man- this is a place of love, not hate......lol
Its not you (or the hugging types on here) I figure would hate me

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EXCELLENT POST. I used up rep points on you already though.
Thanks
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Also and I'm going to get it as well BUT if you actually break the crime stats down how much of it in some of these southern cities as well as places like Newark, Camden et al is black on black crime??? Drug dealing..drive bys..gangs and all that goes with that etc all RAISE the crime stats but don't always effect the normal citizens as far as being the actual victims.
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:16 AM
 
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The speculative part is pure speculation - to be candid, I like the bums in Atlanta. They are helpful, the bums in NYC aren't.
That probably sounds kinda funny to those who haven't experienced it, but I know exactly what you're saying, and it's so true- I've never met a nicer bunch of bums/panhandlers than the ones in downtown Atlanta- must be that whole "southern hospitality" thing again.......lol.
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:53 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Also and I'm going to get it as well BUT if you actually break the crime stats down how much of it in some of these southern cities as well as places like Newark, Camden et al is black on black crime??? Drug dealing..drive bys..gangs and all that goes with that etc all RAISE the crime stats but don't always effect the normal citizens as far as being the actual victims.
and you need to don your flame-proof victoria secret panties, LOL
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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and you need to don your flame-proof victoria secret panties, LOL

I know but it's sadly the truth
the highest homicides are black males against black males between the ages of 17-35 I believe...now I'm going to have to search & find it
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