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Old 10-01-2016, 07:13 PM
 
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Old 10-01-2016, 08:19 PM
 
Location: NJ
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That is one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen posted .
its just reading comprehension. maybe it isnt your strongest suit. i have noted that you have said a couple of times now that I hate everything about this country and i have never said that. in fact, all of my issues have been with the us government, which is not "the country" it is just an organization within the area of the country. but you seem to think government = country. the government does not represent the people and being ok with the government isnt being a very good person or american.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig
 
Old 10-02-2016, 01:04 AM
 
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Clinton is relying on votes from Camden, Paterson, Trenton & Newark to win NJ. She gave the big fu finger to the rest of the state.
 
Old 10-02-2016, 06:09 AM
 
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its just reading comprehension. maybe it isnt your strongest suit. i have noted that you have said a couple of times now that I hate everything about this country and i have never said that. in fact, all of my issues have been with the us government, which is not "the country" it is just an organization within the area of the country. but you seem to think government = country. the government does not represent the people and being ok with the government isnt being a very good person or american.


Seriously if there was ever a doubt before there is no doubt now about your total lack of understanding and ignorance of the World around you.
 
Old 10-02-2016, 11:53 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Seriously if there was ever a doubt before there is no doubt now about your total lack of understanding and ignorance of the World around you.
you dont really have anything of substance to say, just petty insults. if you lived in the world outside of the US, you may wonder why the US government murders so many people in other countries. you consider that a minor issue because it isnt your house getting a drone launched missile sent into it.
 
Old 10-02-2016, 05:28 PM
 
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you dont really have anything of substance to say, just petty insults.

LOL, I see so now you try to get me mad ,you are not good at the internet bully thing .


I have not called you one name or insulted you.If you are insulted by something I posted maybe you should go back and think about what it is you post.like in #168 to quote" isis has nothing on america." as I stated before and will again if there was ever any doubt about your lack of understanding and you complete ignorance of the world around you it is gone now.Others than myself find your statment pretty harsh also as your buddy in #170 did.
I see by your location you are from Holmdel NJ a very nice affluent area of NJ.Maybe you should be thankful for what this country has given your family an opportunity to achieve.Think on that .
 
Old 10-02-2016, 06:25 PM
 
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You fill out a form and pay the IRS what was withheld from Employee's check and employer side match. That is simply accounting. The cost of an employee to a company is the all-in cost. You're simply doing bookkeeping on the employee's money. How do you not see this? I've been in corporate planning for some time. Employee cost is an all-in cost. The IRS is not charging the company, they are charging the employee. Sadly you've been fooled by the bad card trick also. Independent contractors find this out very quickly as they pay the entire nut because they are both the employee and employer.
I can't withhold all 14% from an employee's paycheck because I am obligated to pay for half of it as the employer.

If the IRS was charging the employee 100%, 100% would be taken out of the employee's paycheck. Just like a 1099'er.

I understand the cost of "doing business" because I've owned one for 20+ years.

You're playing word games.
 
Old 10-02-2016, 08:32 PM
 
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I can't withhold all 14% from an employee's paycheck because I am obligated to pay for half of it as the employer.

If the IRS was charging the employee 100%, 100% would be taken out of the employee's paycheck. Just like a 1099'er.

I understand the cost of "doing business" because I've owned one for 20+ years.

You're playing word games.
I've owned a couple and I am now part of a strategic planning for a billion $ company. I know from which I speak on this. I'm not playing word games. The rules were set up to play word games. Politicians knew the "perception" of charging the employee directly so they play the word game to say "the employer bears the cost". No. The employee bears the cost. Your COST of an employee is your TOTAL cost. That includes your SS deduction. You're simply doing the accounting on their behalf. Again, I ask you to simply look at self employed people...they pay the whole amount bc they are in effect the employer and employee.

Don't believe me, believe Milton Friedman, Nobel Economist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKY1xA36ua8
 
Old 10-02-2016, 09:11 PM
 
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I've owned a couple and I am now part of a strategic planning for a billion $ company. I know from which I speak on this. I'm not playing word games. The rules were set up to play word games. Politicians knew the "perception" of charging the employee directly so they play the word game to say "the employer bears the cost". No. The employee bears the cost. Your COST of an employee is your TOTAL cost. That includes your SS deduction. You're simply doing the accounting on their behalf. Again, I ask you to simply look at self employed people...they pay the whole amount bc they are in effect the employer and employee.

Don't believe me, believe Milton Friedman, Nobel Economist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKY1xA36ua8


Then why fake it?

Just make the employee pay it all and right out of his/her paycheck.

Employees cost their EMPLOYERS money in the form of FICA/payroll taxes.

Does it all end up in the big ball of wax called "overhead"?

Yes.

Still costs employers, not employees.

Milty is all about theory, not reality.

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Old 10-03-2016, 06:48 AM
 
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Then why fake it?

Just make the employee pay it all and right out of his/her paycheck.

Employees cost their EMPLOYERS money in the form of FICA/payroll taxes.

Does it all end up in the big ball of wax called "overhead"?

Yes.

Still costs employers, not employees.

Milty is all about theory, not reality.
Bc it would never pass muster if they told you your SS withholding is double. The cost of an employee is the all in cost. This is not theory. If you employ me, you could care less whether the $200/wk is in the form of $100 salary plus $100 withholding. It is meaningless to you.

From the Tax Foundation:

The Economic Incidence of Payroll Taxes
Although the employer remits the check for their share of the Social Security, Medicare, and Unemployment Insurance taxes, they are not the ones who ultimately pay. In the face of higher labor costs due to their share of the payroll taxes, employers can either reduce employment or reduce the wages of employees. Research has found that employers choose the latter and reduce their employees’ wages by the cost of the employer-side payroll tax.
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