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Old 10-13-2016, 05:24 PM
 
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Originally Posted by HudsonCoNJ View Post
Don't go clouding the issue with your logic now. You'll be accused of being a liar!
What he said:

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"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
Donald Trump speech, debates and campaign quotes | Newsday

 
Old 10-13-2016, 05:52 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by Informed Info View Post
What he said:

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"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
Donald Trump speech, debates and campaign quotes | Newsday
Crickets from the captain...
 
Old 10-13-2016, 07:07 PM
 
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Crickets from the captain...

Eh. I happen to agree with CaptainNJ.

Then I found the full quote:

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“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”
And then he went on to say:

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“And it only makes common sense, it only makes common sense: they’re sending us not the right people, and it’s coming from more than Mexico, it’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably, probably from the Middle East. But we don’t know because we have no protection, and we have no competence. We don’t know what’s happening. And it’s gotta stop. And it’s gotta stop fast.”
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Trump was discussing crimes committed by unauthorized immigrants. Is it true that some people who illegally cross the border from Mexico are good? Yes. Is it true that some others commit crimes? Yes. Is that a problem? People disagree. Some conjecture that unauthorized immigrants don’t commit more crimes than U.S. citizens. But crimes by unauthorized immigrants, even murders, would not have happened if those individuals had not entered the U.S.
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The Texas Department of Public Safety identified 207,076 foreign aliens who were booked into Texas county jails from October 2008 through August 1, 2014. Their term “foreign aliens” includes both foreigners who are in Texas legally and foreigners who entered illegally. They were accused of 357,884 crimes in those 70 months, including these charges: 4,413 terroristic threats, 60,973 robberies and larcenies, 6,636 vehicle thefts, 78,682 assaults, 12,869 sexual assaults and offenses, 1,113 kidnapping, and 3,089 homicides.

That includes, an average of 1,383 charges of sexual assaults per year, in Texas alone. The real number of rapes and sexual assaults is larger since many victims do not report these crimes. According to the National Crime and Victimization Survey, 2008-2012, approximately 68% of sexual assault crimes are not reported. So I estimate that foreigners commit roughly 4,000 sexual assaults in Texas each year.
Article was written by a Alberto Martinez. A tenured history Professor who lives in Austin, TX. He's Puerto Rican, voted for Obama & had Bernie's back (because Elizabeth Warren wasn't running).

** The Media Needs to Stop Telling This Lie About Donald Trump* :* Information Clearing House - ICH
 
Old 10-13-2016, 07:18 PM
 
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1. I am a woman.

2. Immoral: not conforming to normal standards of morality.

Most people feel it is the "right" aka moral thing to pay ones debts to the best of ones abilities. Trump uses bankruptcy to protect his personal assets rather than pay debts. That is not conforming to normal standards of morality. I would also argue that Chapter 11 frequently is utilized inappropriately by people like Mr. Trump to avoid Chapter 13 solely to protect his personal assets to the detriment of others. So yes, immoral.
This shows a complete lack for the bankruptcy laws of the country. And also a lack of understanding of contract law as well.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 03:51 AM
 
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It's not spin. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. Vote for Hillary. I don't really care.

In light of the context of the conversation I am not making any assumptions. Unless you misread something that I have written, then you meant what I said you meant. In the context of the conversation, you could not have meant anything else. So either you meant what I said, or you are not viewing this conversation logically.

All facts to the contrary.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 07:15 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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All facts to the contrary.
You seem to like throwing out these one line sound bites that don't really mean anything or fit within the conversation. I have no idea what this post means.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 08:25 AM
 
Location: NYC
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhXu8IvVp2g

Old Video of Senator Hillary Clinton talks and agrees with building a wall at the Mexico Border back then and now??

She even mentions that illegals could jeopardize our national security.

We know she was for the Trans Pacific Trade deal, as Secretary Clinton was pushing for it. Now she's against it.

We know that Hillary would say anything to get people to vote for her even though she keeps flip flopping on all these issues.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 08:37 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhXu8IvVp2g

Old Video of Senator Hillary Clinton talks and agrees with building a wall at the Mexico Border back then and now??

She even mentions that illegals could jeopardize our national security.

We know she was for the Trans Pacific Trade deal, as Secretary Clinton was pushing for it. Now she's against it.

We know that Hillary would say anything to get people to vote for her even though she keeps flip flopping on all these issues.
Wikileaks cleared up the "border" question. She clearly said she envisions a country with open borders.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 08:48 AM
 
Location: NJ
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hillary was for the wall before she was against it.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 08:52 AM
 
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hillary was for the wall before she was against it.
With D's it is called "evolving". See her stances on gay marriage etc. They "evolve". Rs "Flipflop". Or so I'm told by the media.
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