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Old 11-04-2016, 08:09 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I find it funny that people want to stop development in towns as soon as they have their place. One of my favorite lines I saw on the internet was

We need more housing
We need more housing
We need more housing
Thanks for my house
Stop over development
Stop over development
Stop over development
This reminds me of my town. Everyone in my town complains how we don't have enough businesses in town to help offset the taxes for homeowners. About a year ago Quick Chek wanted to open a location in town and everyone went nuts about how it was such a bad idea, would cause more traffic, pollution, you name it...
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:12 AM
 
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This reminds me of my town. Everyone in my town complains how we don't have enough businesses in town to help offset the taxes for homeowners. About a year ago Quick Chek wanted to open a location in town and everyone went nuts about how it was such a bad idea, would cause more traffic, pollution, you name it...

Yeah, it is a Catch-22 situation. People want to have a nice commute, great shopping, walkable downtown, beautiful parks, great schools, but those things come with a price. 20 years ago I bet a lot of the same people complaining about how Cranford is "too crowded" complained that "its so boring here". You can't have it all, at least without paying a lot for it. 99% of us have to compromise. That's life.
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:55 AM
 
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This reminds me of my town. Everyone in my town complains how we don't have enough businesses in town to help offset the taxes for homeowners. About a year ago Quick Chek wanted to open a location in town and everyone went nuts about how it was such a bad idea, would cause more traffic, pollution, you name it...
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Yeah, it is a Catch-22 situation. People want to have a nice commute, great shopping, walkable downtown, beautiful parks, great schools, but those things come with a price. 20 years ago I bet a lot of the same people complaining about how Cranford is "too crowded" complained that "its so boring here". You can't have it all, at least without paying a lot for it. 99% of us have to compromise. That's life.
Most people don't mind businesses (though Cranford has always been very anti-chain), they mind the addition of multiple 100+ unit apartment complexes.
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:40 AM
 
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Most people don't mind businesses (though Cranford has always been very anti-chain), they mind the addition of multiple 100+ unit apartment complexes.
I don't blame you on that, but those apartment complexes help keep your taxes down as well. If a community/town is well planned growth can be achieved without sacrificing privacy too much. But lets face it, Cranford is a nice town and people want to live there, so you are going to have some of the development issues that you cite.
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:42 AM
 
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This reminds me of my town. Everyone in my town complains how we don't have enough businesses in town to help offset the taxes for homeowners. About a year ago Quick Chek wanted to open a location in town and everyone went nuts about how it was such a bad idea, would cause more traffic, pollution, you name it...
Seemed to me most of that was pushed by the few businesses that are on Northfield already. Oooh, can't have a gas station on a major road (never mind there's one there already). Fortunately they couldn't stop the replacement Dunkin Donuts.
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Seemed to me most of that was pushed by the few businesses that are on Northfield already. Oooh, can't have a gas station on a major road (never mind there's one there already). Fortunately they couldn't stop the replacement Dunkin Donuts.

St Cloud Deli and Argyle Marketplace > Quick Chek
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Old 11-04-2016, 01:09 PM
 
Location: cranford, NJ
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I don't blame you on that, but those apartment complexes help keep your taxes down as well. If a community/town is well planned growth can be achieved without sacrificing privacy too much. But lets face it, Cranford is a nice town and people want to live there, so you are going to have some of the development issues that you cite.
Actually, the apartments that are being built on Birchwood will increase property taxes. They are getting massive tax breaks for building those at the towns expenses.
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Old 11-04-2016, 01:44 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Actually, the apartments that are being built on Birchwood will increase property taxes. They are getting massive tax breaks for building those at the towns expenses.
Why would a town like Cranford offer tax abatements to developers? What's in it for the town?
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:53 PM
 
Location: cranford, NJ
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they lost a lawsuit... the developers are building low income housing
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Old 11-06-2016, 01:15 PM
 
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Why would a town like Cranford offer tax abatements to developers? What's in it for the town?
As with many other NJ towns, villages, local areas Cranford has been found to be in violation of various rulings regarding "affordable housing". The town needs about 500 units in order to be in compliance, so.....


Court approves Cranford housing units - Union News Daily
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