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Originally Posted by SWB
Thanks again, everyone, for the insight. It's becoming overwhelmingly clear to me that there is no logical response any right-wing zealot here in Pennylvania can provide to me that would have any substance to oppose same-sex civil unions, hospital visitation rights, etc.
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Haha. There were some threads in the politics and religion forums here on City-Data months ago where I asked some people "HOW have (or would) same sex unions affected YOUR life? Name ONE thing, ANYTHING." I got zero responses, just more yelling that didn't address the question at all. The best answer I've ever gotten is an honest, "Well it doesn't affect my life, but it's against my religious beliefs so I have to oppose it." My response to that line is always, "well if it's against YOUR religious beliefs, that's fine. Then YOU should not get into a same-sex union. But what right do you have to enact laws that prohibit other people from engaging in unions that may not be opposed to their moral beliefs at all?" I've never gotten a good answer to that one. People either don't say anything, or revert back to "well gay marriage is a slippery slope. next we'll endorse marrying farm animals!!!!!!"
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Originally Posted by SWB
For all the whining you people do about New Jersey, you should feel VERY proud that your state is so "progressive." Your state has not only embraced civil unions and showed the rest of the nation that you all put a high emphasis upon civil rights, but you also took the safety of drivers into consideration by banning any non-hands-free communications device (a.k.a. hand-held cell phones) while driving. Here in PA I'm constantly following swerving SUVs on the freeway at rush hour, and when I go to pass them over 90% of the time they have their left hands craned to their ear with a cell phone. I truly wish Pennsylvania's legislators would be "on the ball." Hell, Scranton's short-lived public smoking ban had to be overturned because the state "didn't get that far yet."  As much as I love my own state, it is WAY far behind the times socially. |
Ain't that the truth. For all the problems NJ has, it was still such a relief to arrive here. Virginia passed a constitutional ban on same sex unions which effectively eliminated domestic partner benefits for heterosexual couples too, and affects unmarried heterosexual couples rights for child custody, wills, and domestic violence protection.
My college town's council had a campaign to remove COSMO magazine from shelves within the town because it's too racey for teenagers! The town tried to get rid of the high school gay-straight alliance club. To do so they were willing to suspend ALL extra-curricular clubs/organizations. Well I hope it's worth the price, as bored teenagers with no motivation and nothing to do roam the streets commiting random crimes... but at least the gays aren't getting any support! God be praised!
Sorry for the rant everyone, but these are some reasons that some of us are very happy that places like New Jersey exist!
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