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Really?Sunday is the usual day of rest before the new work week starts,
Really. That makes no sense. You asked why Chic fil A is closed on Sunday. The family that owns it are devout Christians and choose not to work on the Christian sabbath.
Well I guess the alternative would be to pay a "user" fee every time you pulled out of your driveway, to go to work, or the store, or??
Or pay a fee if someone breaks into your house and you call the police???
"Hello Mr CaptainNJ, I'm Officer Smith to take the police report? Would you like to put this on a credit card or are you paying cash?
If you belong to the "BoysinblueAetnaUnitedPoliceCare law enforcement insurance plan", I'll need your to process your benefit card before I can take the report. If this a break and enter the cost will be $100.00, if anything was taken the cost will be $150 for goods or damages under $500. for goods or damages over $501 the cost of the police report is $200. I'll also need the deductible payment of your plan in cash or credit card, no checks accepted.
If the perpetrator is caught, the prosecutors office will bill you separately. Again this will depend on the value of the goods or damages. Please sign this form that you acknowledge I've explained this to you and you accept the terms of your local police protection."
its funny how successful people have been in providing services for money and yet the ones that government handles people believe are impossible to handle without government.
you realize that if food distribution was completely managed by government you would believe that it is impossible for the private sector to manage such am undertaking of feeding 300+ million people?
its funny how successful people have been in providing services for money and yet the ones that government handles people believe are impossible to handle without government.
you realize that if food distribution was completely managed by government you would believe that it is impossible for the private sector to manage such am undertaking of feeding 300+ million people?
It's not that it would be impossible, it's that it would be more money for worse service.
Compare water/sewer service to internet broadband:
Water/Sewer - Public Service - Tens of thousands of gallons of clean, sanitary water delivered to your house every year and the removal and treatment of waste for a cost of about $60 per month.
Internet broadband - Private Enterprise - Nothing more than a wire that connects you to the ISP's switch which connects to the internet backbone for the same $60 per month.
Paying shareholders every quarter is a needless drag on consumers.
its funny how successful people have been in providing services for money and yet the ones that government handles people believe are impossible to handle without government.
you realize that if food distribution was completely managed by government you would believe that it is impossible for the private sector to manage such am undertaking of feeding 300+ million people?
OK, govt can't do anything right. Yet in countries that have universal healthcare, why are costs LESS and LONGEVITY more?
How would your "non-governmental" world propose to handle police protection, prison, (or does this utopia not need prisons?), water and sewage, electrical grid, or any other services provided by local government?
Would your utopian banks be regulated? How about commerce? How could you be reasonably assured that you actually got 1 gal of gas, or 1 lb of meat, if not for govt people checking weights and measures?
OK, govt can't do anything right. Yet in countries that have universal healthcare, why are costs LESS and LONGEVITY more?
How would your "non-governmental" world propose to handle police protection, prison, (or does this utopia not need prisons?), water and sewage, electrical grid, or any other services provided by local government?
Would your utopian banks be regulated? How about commerce? How could you be reasonably assured that you actually got 1 gal of gas, or 1 lb of meat, if not for govt people checking weights and measures?
there are a lot of reasons and a big part of it is the corrupt government and inefficient government involvement in our healthcare system. people like to pretend like we have a free market in america but we do not.
in any case, it is simply not legitimate to force people to give over their money. it is theft. if they want people's money, they should provide something that the people will voluntarily pay for.
It's not that it would be impossible, it's that it would be more money for worse service.
Compare water/sewer service to internet broadband:
Water/Sewer - Public Service - Tens of thousands of gallons of clean, sanitary water delivered to your house every year and the removal and treatment of waste for a cost of about $60 per month.
Internet broadband - Private Enterprise - Nothing more than a wire that connects you to the ISP's switch which connects to the internet backbone for the same $60 per month.
Paying shareholders every quarter is a needless drag on consumers.
why would you compare water/sewer service to broadband? they are two totally different things. of course, one of the reasons broadband is more expensive than it should be is because cable companies bribe government to protect their monopolies.
there are a lot of reasons and a big part of it is the corrupt government and inefficient government involvement in our healthcare system. people like to pretend like we have a free market in america but we do not.
in any case, it is simply not legitimate to force people to give over their money. it is theft. if they want people's money, they should provide something that the people will voluntarily pay for.
This is the latest talking point I'm hearing from the right. The reason that healthcare is so expensive is because it's not a true free market. They ignore the fact that we have the most free market health care system, and the most expensive system.
They can't comprehend that markets are not appropriate for things like emergency care where people can't shop around, or that children need care and haven't had a change to get a job yet, or that things like vaccinations and prevention of the spread of infectious disease have substantial social benefits. They're free market zombies and are incapable or thinking any other way.
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why would you compare water/sewer service to broadband? they are two totally different things. of course, one of the reasons broadband is more expensive than it should be is because cable companies bribe government to protect their monopolies.
No, they're not totally different things. They're services that come from a central place and need to be distributed to households. They're essential services, and they're services that are generally provided by a single firm to an entire region or municipality (broadband internet may have a cable and Telco provider).
I doubt cable companies bribe anyone. I'm sure that they're participating in the corporate campaign finance industry that the rest of private industry uses to influence government. That's another argument in favor of public vs. private services.
This is the latest talking point I'm hearing from the right. The reason that healthcare is so expensive is because it's not a true free market. They ignore the fact that we have the most free market health care system, and the most expensive system.
They can't comprehend that markets are not appropriate for things like emergency care where people can't shop around, or that children need care and haven't had a change to get a job yet, or that things like vaccinations and prevention of the spread of infectious disease have substantial social benefits. They're free market zombies and are incapable or thinking any other way.
No, they're not totally different things. They're services that come from a central place and need to be distributed to households. They're essential services, and they're services that are generally provided by a single firm to an entire region or municipality (broadband internet may have a cable and Telco provider).
I doubt cable companies bribe anyone. I'm sure that they're participating in the corporate campaign finance industry that the rest of private industry uses to influence government. That's another argument in favor of public vs. private services.
markets are appropriate for emergency care. however, when the pricing isnt transparent, it is very difficult for the market to operate effectively. we need more pricing transparency in healthcare and more incentive for people to choose lower cost providers. we also need less restriction in who can provide healthcare so that you arent seeing an MD for something minor. we also need to eliminate prescription drug requirements so people can freely purchase whatever medication they want. we also need to need to stop subsidizing the rest of the world. so your ability to purchase drugs and medical services extends beyond your geographic region and even country.
its a very big industry, the list can go on and on for how to help make it more free and effective.
oh and cable and water are very different. the bribery process is a part of politics, which comes with government control of money. you could provide a wifi cloud to an entire city if the cable companies didnt bribe politicians to make that illegal.
markets are appropriate for emergency care. however, when the pricing isnt transparent, it is very difficult for the market to operate effectively. we need more pricing transparency in healthcare and more incentive for people to choose lower cost providers. we also need less restriction in who can provide healthcare so that you arent seeing an MD for something minor. we also need to eliminate prescription drug requirements so people can freely purchase whatever medication they want. we also need to need to stop subsidizing the rest of the world. so your ability to purchase drugs and medical services extends beyond your geographic region and even country.
its a very big industry, the list can go on and on for how to help make it more free and effective.
I notice that you didn't address any of the obvious shortcomings of market based care: Can't shop for emergency services because of the nature of an emergency, children still need health care, and the substantial social benefits of health care. Market based health care doesn't make sense on any level. Where in the world today does it work?
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oh and cable and water are very different. the bribery process is a part of politics, which comes with government control of money. you could provide a wifi cloud to an entire city if the cable companies didnt bribe politicians to make that illegal.
Municipal WiFi is probably the best bet to get rid of the Telco and Cable company leaches.
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