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Old 07-03-2017, 10:12 AM
 
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We all know that the larger cities have a reputation of being open minded and tolerant. However, I think the reverse is true for the state of New Jersey. The cities of Newark, Paterson, and Elizabeth are so ethnically divided. I don’t know about Jersey City though. I had a friend who worked in a non profit in Newark and they had to send a black to a black neighborhood and a Latino to a Latino neighborhood. I have heard of fights in high schools in Elizabeth and Paterson due to ethnic tensions. I heard in JFK High in Paterson blacks have one hallway, Dominicans have one, general Latinos have one, and Arabs have another hallway. In Elizabeth, African Americans, Hispanics, and Haitians have tensions with one another. In Paterson even Latinos are segregated. Peruvians are in one section, Colombians, in one, Dominicans in one, and Mexicans in another. There is such an ethnic divide when it comes to voting in these cities. Hispanics might not vote for non Hispanics. .

By contrast, the suburbs in Middlesex County are much more integrated. In Edison, a Korean was mayor and Koreans are such a small minority there. I think even Chinese people outnumber them there and I don’t think the Chinese population is over 10 percent there. Yet one lady told me that in Paterson , Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are not very likely to vote for a Peruvian mayor. High school kids tend to hang out with one another and ethnicity does not matter that much in suburban Middlesex County places like Woodbridge, Edison, and Carteret. I have not heard of ethnic tensions being so strong here. Edison High, Woodbridge High, and Carteret High are pretty diverse too.

Has anyone else noticed this? Isn’t it ironic that the suburbs in New Jersey are more integrated and have less ethnic tension than the cities even though cities have a reputation of being “progressive, open minded, and tolerant”?
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Old 07-03-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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We all know that the larger cities have a reputation of being open minded and tolerant. However, I think the reverse is true for the state of New Jersey. The cities of Newark, Paterson, and Elizabeth are so ethnically divided. I don’t know about Jersey City though. I had a friend who worked in a non profit in Newark and they had to send a black to a black neighborhood and a Latino to a Latino neighborhood. I have heard of fights in high schools in Elizabeth and Paterson due to ethnic tensions. I heard in JFK High in Paterson blacks have one hallway, Dominicans have one, general Latinos have one, and Arabs have another hallway. In Elizabeth, African Americans, Hispanics, and Haitians have tensions with one another. In Paterson even Latinos are segregated. Peruvians are in one section, Colombians, in one, Dominicans in one, and Mexicans in another. There is such an ethnic divide when it comes to voting in these cities. Hispanics might not vote for non Hispanics. .

By contrast, the suburbs in Middlesex County are much more integrated. In Edison, a Korean was mayor and Koreans are such a small minority there. I think even Chinese people outnumber them there and I don’t think the Chinese population is over 10 percent there. Yet one lady told me that in Paterson , Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are not very likely to vote for a Peruvian mayor. High school kids tend to hang out with one another and ethnicity does not matter that much in suburban Middlesex County places like Woodbridge, Edison, and Carteret. I have not heard of ethnic tensions being so strong here. Edison High, Woodbridge High, and Carteret High are pretty diverse too.

Has anyone else noticed this? Isn’t it ironic that the suburbs in New Jersey are more integrated and have less ethnic tension than the cities even though cities have a reputation of being “progressive, open minded, and tolerant”?
My guess is that minorities in urban areas are fresh immigrants and like to stick with their own people. Once they (or their children) are established and assimilated, they move out to other areas and are more open-minded and mingle with other people. Just a theory...
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Old 07-03-2017, 02:40 PM
 
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We have to consider how different languages can keep groups separate too.
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Old 07-03-2017, 03:35 PM
 
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I think some of the tensions especially when it comes to keeping people apart also comes from gang violence. There are the Hispanic gangs and the black gangs in cities like Elizabeth and Newark and the gangs obviously don't get along.
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Old 07-04-2017, 07:58 AM
 
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Jersey City is where all the East Indians and affluent Asians live
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Old 07-04-2017, 05:15 PM
 
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My guess is that minorities in urban areas are fresh immigrants and like to stick with their own people. Once they (or their children) are established and assimilated, they move out to other areas and are more open-minded and mingle with other people. Just a theory...
I would say this is true. However, I think a lot of the people in these cities are second generation or have even been there longer. Puerto Ricans have been in Newark and Paterson since the 50s.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:11 AM
 
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You should see Rutgers New Brunswick.

Yes, it's very diverse on paper. But man, people stick together in their own groups there outside of class

Which I think is perfectly fine
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Old 07-05-2017, 11:08 AM
 
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You should see Rutgers New Brunswick.

Yes, it's very diverse on paper. But man, people stick together in their own groups there outside of class

Which I think is perfectly fine
...what? Are you saying people stick together by race at RU NB? That is simply not true. I went to the School of Engineering and hung out with everyone - guys, girls, all races, no one cared at all.
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Old 07-05-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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...what? Are you saying people stick together by race at RU NB? That is simply not true. I went to the School of Engineering and hung out with everyone - guys, girls, all races, no one cared at all.
Yeah. I did see a lot of intermingling in Rutgers New Brunswick. You didn't have hallways where certain ethnicities were concentrated. You didn't see students getting jumped because of their ethnicity. It wasn't uncommon to see students of different races or ethnicities eating together in the dining halls. The students that were the most segregated were the international students and even they talked to other students.
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Old 07-05-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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...what? Are you saying people stick together by race at RU NB? That is simply not true. I went to the School of Engineering and hung out with everyone - guys, girls, all races, no one cared at all.
Sure that's at classes

There are tons and tons and tons of ethnic and racial and religious groups and everything else at RU

Black fraternities white fraternities Jewish etc you name it

I don't think it's a bad thing but let's be real
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