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03-19-2008, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by emanon
My point is that your school portion of the property tax should be based on how many kids you have in the system, not how many rooms you have in your house.
Yes all homeowners should have to support the school system to operate with a base payment then a per child cost.
Very simple the overpopulationists should have to pay more than those who are responsible adults.
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And who decides what's "responsible"? Is having one kid "responsible"? Two? Four? Is it based on your income? ???
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03-19-2008, 09:09 AM
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L.U.S.T. Girl
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Location: Stewartsville, NJ
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Originally Posted by BobKovacs
And who decides what's "responsible"? Is having one kid "responsible"? Two? Four? Is it based on your income? ???
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In China that's the case and God forbid the first child is a female...off with her head and try for a son! We do not want to end up like they have!
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03-19-2008, 09:19 AM
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I'll turn out the lights
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by apvbguy
taxes are based on assessed value not what it is worth, for example my home is assessed at 637k. it is currently on the market for twice that number, my 14.5k taxes are based on the assessed value
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I KNOW this. i'm asking the person who said his house is ASSESSED at 1.3million what its WORTH is. my house is assessed at less than half its value too.
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03-19-2008, 09:20 AM
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I'll turn out the lights
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by apvbguy
even though people are renting the owner of the home they are renting are paying the property taxes and those taxes are reflected in the rent.
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oh for pete's sake. another thing I KNOW. it's called sarcasm.
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03-19-2008, 09:22 AM
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I'll turn out the lights
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emanon
My point is that your school portion of the property tax should be based on how many kids you have in the system, not how many rooms you have in your house.
Yes all homeowners should have to support the school system to operate with a base payment then a per child cost.
Very simple the overpopulationists should have to pay more than those who are responsible adults.
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believe me, i know your point - i saw that coming a zillion miles away. what state operates like this?
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03-19-2008, 09:23 AM
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Independent people don't need politicians
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Location: 32° 19' 6" N, -106° 43' 34" W
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Originally Posted by apvbguy
how about people like me, 14.5k a year in taxes 2 kids who have never step foot into a government school. I get to pay school taxes and tuition.
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Ah yes, the infamous NJ "Double screwing", as my friend likes to say. My friends live in Bloomingdale and both opt for the private school choice as well. Both believe the school systems there are inferior. But how can they be? My one friend is paying 11600 and the other almost 8000. You would think a good product could be had for that price?
Unless, of course, you believe (as do I) the school budget is secondary, while the parent-child relationship ultimately dictates what happens in the schools. That is to say, more involved parents, at home with their children, hands-on with the curriculum, instead of spending 4 hours a day on Rt 80 and 10+ hours at work.
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03-19-2008, 09:28 AM
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Location: Piscataway, New Jersey
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I pay a little less than 6k for a 3 bedroom townhouse with basement and garage. In Piscataway.
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03-19-2008, 10:10 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Atlantic Highlands NJ/Ponte Vedra FL/NYC
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Originally Posted by tahiti
oh for pete's sake. another thing I KNOW. it's called sarcasm.
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sarcasm is an inflection that does not translate well to print, in regular conversation the sarcastic comment is easily detected by voice tone and body language which is impossible to convey via this format. try tagging your sarcastic comments like this <sarcasm> it would go a long way to avoid uncomfortable miscommunication
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03-19-2008, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by apvbguy
sarcasm is an inflection that does not translate well to print, in regular conversation the sarcastic comment is easily detected by voice tone and body language which is impossible to convey via this format. try tagging your sarcastic comments like this <sarcasm> it would go a long way to avoid uncomfortable miscommunication
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Here here!
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03-19-2008, 10:18 AM
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Not a member
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Location: Atlantic Highlands NJ/Ponte Vedra FL/NYC
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Originally Posted by mike0421
Ah yes, the infamous NJ "Double screwing", as my friend likes to say. My friends live in Bloomingdale and both opt for the private school choice as well. Both believe the school systems there are inferior. But how can they be? My one friend is paying 11600 and the other almost 8000. You would think a good product could be had for that price?
Unless, of course, you believe (as do I) the school budget is secondary, while the parent-child relationship ultimately dictates what happens in the schools. That is to say, more involved parents, at home with their children, hands-on with the curriculum, instead of spending 4 hours a day on Rt 80 and 10+ hours at work.
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in our towns school district they spend about 14k per student and churn out a low level education as reported by the state report cards, when we used the catholic schools we paid about 5k a year in tuition, private school was about 15k annual tuition and catholic HS (CBA) is about 11k per year, and these options are so much better educationally than our local public schools.
You are so right about parental involvement being crucial to the educational process and I have found that people in the private school arena are more likely to be very involved in their children's lives versus the public schools where like you described many selfish parents are more concerned about their careers either by choice or by circumstance and have little time to be concerned about how well their offspring are being reared. And yes there are many families with 2 working parents in the private schools but somehow they find the time to be involved in their child's education.
My big issue with my local schools is that for the huge amount of money they go through and the small size of the school, why poor performance is acceptable, for the money we spend and the small class sizes they have excellence could be easily reached.
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