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Old 01-07-2018, 11:49 AM
 
Location: JC
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City-Data says 16% of Hunterdon county residents rent their apartments/homes. Now, you can argue that they're paying taxes as part of their rents, but they're not paying property taxes directly. Wiki says income taxes are 1.4%, 1.75% and 3.5%, depending on income - up to $40,000. It's safe to say that a lot of lower income people are the ones renting, so they're not paying much to begin with. Most of them will get a refund on their income taxes as well. So... no, they don't pay zero taxes, but they're paying pretty close to zero. The claim was also not 'half of NJ', it was half of Murphy voters.
Property taxes are determined by the town government. The percentage value on assessment is determined by county and far as I know all NJ counties have choosen assessment at 100% of property value. Again this is an incorrect stereotype of Murphy voters being out of touch with taxes.
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Old 01-07-2018, 12:12 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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How much more can a working/middle class family afford to pay in property taxes? Property taxes are already insanely high in NJ.
And yet, the fools voted him in.
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Old 01-07-2018, 04:10 PM
 
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I hope you realize those "blue" areas are generally the major population centers while the big swaths of "red" are the rural sticks and low density suburbs.
I do. I also know that this map is from election day 2014. 40 million Americans voted for a Republican house on that day, compared to 35 million who voted for a Democratic house. Also, 24 million Americans voted for a Republican senate then, compared to just 20 million who voted Democratic.

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He knows that. He just wants to mislead people
While I'm sure you are an expert on misleading people, you are wrong here (you should also be an expert on being wrong by now).
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Old 01-07-2018, 04:46 PM
 
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I do. I also know that this map is from election day 2014. 40 million Americans voted for a Republican house on that day, compared to 35 million who voted for a Democratic house. Also, 24 million Americans voted for a Republican senate then, compared to just 20 million who voted Democratic.



While I'm sure you are an expert on misleading people, you are wrong here (you should also be an expert on being wrong by now).
Talk about misleading,look into a mirror. You blame Murphy for everything and he hasn't take office yet
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:37 PM
 
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Talk about misleading,look into a mirror. You blame Murphy for everything and he hasn't take office yet
False. I discuss what Murphy's proposed policies mean, there's a difference.
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Old 01-07-2018, 08:43 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Property taxes are determined by the town government. The percentage value on assessment is determined by county and far as I know all NJ counties have choosen assessment at 100% of property value. Again this is an incorrect stereotype of Murphy voters being out of touch with taxes.
Emphasis on town government

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Old 01-07-2018, 08:45 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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More kicking the can. The only way to save NJ is improve it's cost of living and by being business friendly. NJ cannot afford to squeeze businesses out and over tax the middle class anymore. Soon there will be no businesses and the middle class leaves and would rather live in overpriced NYC than overtaxed NJ.
...by being business friendly ?

How many businesses are leaving NJ ?
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Old 01-07-2018, 09:59 PM
 
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Property taxes are determined by the town government. The percentage value on assessment is determined by county and far as I know all NJ counties have choosen assessment at 100% of property value. Again this is an incorrect stereotype of Murphy voters being out of touch with taxes.
True but the state's method of redistributing the school money it brings in heavily favors a small number of school districts at the expense of hundreds more.

The Abbott school decision strangled suburban and rural school districts.
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:18 AM
 
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True but the state's method of redistributing the school money it brings in heavily favors a small number of school districts at the expense of hundreds more.

The Abbott school decision strangled suburban and rural school districts.
This is true.
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Old 01-08-2018, 06:30 AM
 
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...by being business friendly ?

How many businesses are leaving NJ ?
I own a small business. I have 4 middle class employees, 3 with families that they support.

I am debating leaving. The cost of living and the super high taxes are just too much.
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