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Old 07-12-2018, 09:00 PM
 
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Fair Lawn is a nice town, but its not on the upswing. It's better than Saddle Brook and Elmwood Park....actually much better but has declined in comparison to neighboring towns like Paramus and River Edge. They used to build and sell more expensive homes in Fair Lawn but that has declined a lot and usually homes at the 700k and up range stay on the market for awhile and keep on getting price decreases....and houses that were bought for that amount years ago have to sell at a loss because of the spike on taxes. The problem in fair lawn is that the housing stock isn't that good, and many people keep them in poor shape and there are almost no trees...its just looks more run down in comparison to other towns. River Edge , while also has high taxes, is nicer looking and taken the time to do more town planning with tree plantings and so on. Also the housing stock in River Edge is nicer and they are still building more expensive homes...not as much as they used to, but that's because of the taxes...and because developers are just building more in Paramus instead, again because of the taxes. The commercial strip in River Edge does need work , but the ones in fair lawn will be harder to recover. The area by the train station in River Edge has redeveloped nicely and I assume soon will be done with the rest of the commercial spaces. Families are moving to fair lawn for their more affordable houses and good schools, but I wouldn't say the town is on an upswing....just people are retiring and the houses are cheap for what parents will get.
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:27 PM
 
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Fair Lawn is a nice town, but its not on the upswing. It's better than Saddle Brook and Elmwood Park....actually much better but has declined in comparison to neighboring towns like Paramus and River Edge. They used to build and sell more expensive homes in Fair Lawn but that has declined a lot and usually homes at the 700k and up range stay on the market for awhile and keep on getting price decreases....and houses that were bought for that amount years ago have to sell at a loss because of the spike on taxes. The problem in fair lawn is that the housing stock isn't that good, and many people keep them in poor shape and there are almost no trees...its just looks more run down in comparison to other towns. River Edge , while also has high taxes, is nicer looking and taken the time to do more town planning with tree plantings and so on. Also the housing stock in River Edge is nicer and they are still building more expensive homes...not as much as they used to, but that's because of the taxes...and because developers are just building more in Paramus instead, again because of the taxes. The commercial strip in River Edge does need work , but the ones in fair lawn will be harder to recover. The area by the train station in River Edge has redeveloped nicely and I assume soon will be done with the rest of the commercial spaces. Families are moving to fair lawn for their more affordable houses and good schools, but I wouldn't say the town is on an upswing....just people are retiring and the houses are cheap for what parents will get.
River Edge is a nicer town and better school district than Fair Lawn. River Edge strip on Kinderkamack Rd will have new roofing as it recently collapsed. River Edge shops are getting nicer and more development.
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:54 PM
 
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And since River Edge is smaller, it's easier to improve itself even more....fair lawn is just huge!
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Old 07-12-2018, 10:08 PM
 
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This the same Fairlawn with 2 killings in the last 10 days.
To be fair, the circumstances of the murders have nothing to do with the town. One was a football players brother killing his brothers friend in the NFL players house, the other was a mentally ill man killing his Mom.
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Old 07-13-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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I have always heard good things about Fair Lawn, but last week I was there every day for kid's camp and man, I was pretty shocked at how "unpretty" it was. I drove through the Broadway district, to the library, the River Rd district, and the Saddle River Rd area. I wouldn't say it was bad like Passaic or Paterson, but customarily cited as "worse" towns (by City-Data posters) like Kearny, North Arlington, Lyndhurst all looked more inviting.

I did drive through Radburn over the winter and saw streets lined with small cape cods and it looked cute and neat, but if that's the best section of town, I can see why some posters here say Fair Lawn is in trouble. Small homes like that should be the entry level housing stock of suburbia.

And what is with 4W traffic during rush hour. From Route 17 to the Saddle Brook Parkway exit, holy crap. I would pay the River Edge prices and taxes any day just to avoid the parking lot from 5-6:30pm there.
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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I have always heard good things about Fair Lawn, but last week I was there every day for kid's camp and man, I was pretty shocked at how "unpretty" it was. I drove through the Broadway district, to the library, the River Rd district, and the Saddle River Rd area. I wouldn't say it was bad like Passaic or Paterson, but customarily cited as "worse" towns (by City-Data posters) like Kearny, North Arlington, Lyndhurst all looked more inviting.

I did drive through Radburn over the winter and saw streets lined with small cape cods and it looked cute and neat, but if that's the best section of town, I can see why some posters here say Fair Lawn is in trouble. Small homes like that should be the entry level housing stock of suburbia.

And what is with 4W traffic during rush hour. From Route 17 to the Saddle Brook Parkway exit, holy crap. I would pay the River Edge prices and taxes any day just to avoid the parking lot from 5-6:30pm there.
yup you said it perfectly! and even in the radburn section, only sections of it are nice. for the most part, people are not updating or improving their homes, the flips that are done on those cape code homes are usually cheap looking, and the area has had no improvements. Fair Lawn should have redeveloped their commercial areas and planted trees and so on 10 years ago....but they let it all rot and that is causing an exodus of mid-upper middle class from fair lawn. why invest on building or updating a house if the area around it looks bad?? that is the thought process now
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:34 AM
 
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yup you said it perfectly! and even in the radburn section, only sections of it are nice. for the most part, people are not updating or improving their homes, the flips that are done on those cape code homes are usually cheap looking, and the area has had no improvements. Fair Lawn should have redeveloped their commercial areas and planted trees and so on 10 years ago....but they let it all rot and that is causing an exodus of mid-upper middle class from fair lawn. why invest on building or updating a house if the area around it looks bad?? that is the thought process now
Radburn is not considered "nice" due to its large houses (it doesn't have that many).
It is considered desirable because it is a planned pedestrian community created decades ago to created a community of homes built around 3 very large parks, where kids can walk from almost any part of the neighborhood to another part without having to cross streets.

The elementary school, public pool, and a day camp, as well as other community gatherings/activities are within the parks, so also walking distance without crossing streets. It's a very "kid friendly" neighborhood. It also had more of a community feel than other parts of Fair Lawn, at least in the past. (I haven't been there in a while).
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Old 07-25-2018, 08:55 AM
 
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Looking at NJMLS sold listings, it seems there have been a fair number of recent sales in the 600-800k range, though that’s certainly not the majority of the sales. I don’t remember that being the case 3-4 years ago, but perhaps I missed that.

Test scores from River Edge and Paramus school districts led me to think that Fair Lawn, Paramus and River Edge were all in approximately the same school tier. Indeed, at least Milnes seems to compare favorably to the better Elementary schools in the other towns.

Property taxes in Fair Lawn, while better than River Edge, seem hard to justify in the 600-800k range in light of good but not stellar schools and the overall lack of curb appeal in most parts of the town.
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Old 07-25-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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yup you said it perfectly! and even in the radburn section, only sections of it are nice. for the most part, people are not updating or improving their homes, the flips that are done on those cape code homes are usually cheap looking, and the area has had no improvements. Fair Lawn should have redeveloped their commercial areas and planted trees and so on 10 years ago....but they let it all rot and that is causing an exodus of mid-upper middle class from fair lawn. why invest on building or updating a house if the area around it looks bad?? that is the thought process now

Have you actually been to Fair Lawn and know anyone who lives there? Many Fair Lawn residents are updating their/renovating their homes inside. It is hard to do too much with the outside of the houses since most of them are either brick or siding and can not be easily refreshed without ripping them out. IF more houses had stucco than it can be repainted.


Radburn area practically has vary few cape codes. As is mentioned in the post below, the appeal of Radburn communities is walkability to the parks/pools and elementary school. Although it has been compromised somewhat with the new soft border school selection.

As to redeveloping the commercial areas, it is not that easy. Private developers need to be interested. River Road area had several new buildings and looks a little better. Unfortunately, the disgusting electric poles with transformers and other equipment hanging on them really spoil the appeal of the area. And a lot of the trees planted on River Road are either dying or not growing. Planting trees is not as easy as it sounds....
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Old 07-25-2018, 02:22 PM
 
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Of course I have been around Fair Lawn, even recently. Drive through MOST of the streets and the condition of the houses and curb appeal are not that good....you can also blame it on the style of the construction. There is a significant difference when driving through fair lawn and driving through river edge for example.
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