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Old 12-03-2018, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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i have never been to wayne. that may explain why i am so happy.
It's a nice town. People love to go on and on about the swampiness/flooding, but that's only a small part of a huge township. A good chunk of the town is on high land, hence the fact that there are two high schools, "Wayne Valley" and "Wayne Hills". Do ya really think a place called Wayne Hills floods or is on swampland?

This looks like "concrete" or "swampland" to you?

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2...?fullpage=true
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Old 12-03-2018, 03:17 PM
 
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It's a nice town. People love to go on and on about the swampiness/flooding, but that's only a small part of a huge township. A good chunk of the town is on high land, hence the fact that there are two high schools, "Wayne Valley" and "Wayne Hills". Do ya really think a place called Wayne Hills floods or is on swampland?

This looks like "concrete" or "swampland" to you?

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2...?fullpage=true
Hey, Greenland isn't really green, you never know with real estate names!
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Old 12-03-2018, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Wayne,NJ
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I like how everyone goes on about flooding in Wayne. Like Mightyqueen says, most of Wayne is actually high ground. Some of the areas that flood are what they call "Old Wayne". Most of the flooding isn't caused by "filling in swamps" in Wayne or other places. Flooding is caused by upstream "asphalt runoff". With all the development upstream, there's less area for rainfall to soak in. Rain just runs into the gutters and down to creeks, brooks, etc. then into someone's yard, basement, etc. along the river.

As far as what NJ would develop if certain parcels of woods were not preserved. NJ wouldn't develop any of it, developer's builders, would develop any and every spot they could. Any 2 or 3 acre parcel that goes up for sale seems to be turned into a cul-de-sac with as many homes as they can pack in according to lot size restrictions. Then there is also what realtors refer to as "teardowns". This is the small older home in a desirable area that gets sold and "remodeled", essentially 1 wall is left standing, foundations, expanded, so in it's place is a McMansion.

Like another poster said, most of the traffic in Wayne isn't people who live there, they may work there, or pass thru on their way to work or college, WPU. Just read some of the police reports for drug busts along Rt 23, most of the people arrested live further north. It seems they can't wait to get "home" to get their fix, shoot up right away, then attempt to drive.
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Old 12-03-2018, 04:37 PM
 
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Most people in this forum are too young to remember the proposed Jetport that the Port Authority wanted to build in the '60s, in what is now preserved as The Great Swamp National Wildlife Refuge. The PA's plan was that, rather than expand Newark Airport, they would build a HUGE new airport in Morris County, totally obliterating the wild and undeveloped land in that area. Additionally, the skies over much of Northern and Central Jersey would have been filled with low-flying, extremely noisy planes.

Only because of a series of very well-organized citizens' protests over the course of many months was that PA plan scuttled, and the US Congress subsequently saved that area--in perpetuity--from development.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_...ildlife_Refuge
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Old 12-03-2018, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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It will depend upon who is running the municipalities. In 2009. I moved from the Bergen/Passaic County area, where I spent all of my life and watched as they just kept building and building and building and taking every last patch of woods, to Monmouth County, which seems to have had more foresight in that regard.

Eastern Monmouth County is also building, building, building. In the nine years I've been here, I've seen condo complexes and McMansion developments spring up and the traffic has gotten noticeably worse.

However, Monmouth County's park system is nationally recognized. They've done their job in putting aside substantial amounts of land that will stay part of the park system. Despite the overbuilding, there is lots of open space to walk, canoe, hike, fish, whatever, because they looked ahead. I hope that other areas of New Jersey do the same.
Monmouth County has an excellent park system, and they're not alone. Considering that New Jersey is a small, densely populated state, there is quite a bit of open land which will probably, hopefully, never be developed. I don't think that Monmouth Battlefield State Park will ever become a housing development.
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Old 12-03-2018, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Most people in this forum are too young to remember the proposed Jetport that the Port Authority wanted to build in the '60s, in what is now preserved as The Great Swamp National Wildlife Refuge. The PA's plan was that, rather than expand Newark Airport, they would build a HUGE new airport in Morris County, totally obliterating the wild and undeveloped land in that area. Additionally, the skies over much of Northern and Central Jersey would have been filled with low-flying, extremely noisy planes.

Only because of a series of very well-organized citizens' protests over the course of many months was that PA plan scuttled, and the US Congress subsequently saved that area--in perpetuity--from development.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_...ildlife_Refuge
That's when they started looking at the Pine Barrens.
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Old 12-03-2018, 06:44 PM
 
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Just more houses.
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Old 12-03-2018, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Central, NJ
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Strip malls and townhouses. What else?
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:00 PM
 
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A huge chunk of North Jersey floods, not just the towns mentioned. Building willy nilly can, and has, made many areas flood zones. This area used to be a prehistoric lake, so that also sets up drainage problems as well.
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Bay Area
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A huge chunk of North Jersey floods, not just the towns mentioned. Building willy nilly can, and has, made many areas flood zones. This area used to be a prehistoric lake, so that also sets up drainage problems as well.
I think you are talking about the prehistoric Lake Passaic! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Passaic

If you look at the map on that link, we can assume the lake covered today's swamp/wetland areas of NJ that I have seen in real life. It covers the Great Swamp Wildlife Refuge, Troy Meadow Wetlands, Great Piece Meadows, the undocumented wetland in Turkey Mountain (part of Pyramid Mountain in Boonton/Montville), and much more. I assume all of that is from the melted Wisconsin Glacier (I assume that formed the prehistoric Lake Passaic) that turned into swamp lands.
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