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Old 01-03-2019, 04:57 AM
 
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Apparently NJ is not a sanctuary state for residents. Guvmurph has seen to that.


Why is guvmurph unsympathetic to NJ taxpayers ???????
A few things here.........

1) who says he isn't?

2) The voter new what he was going to do, why complain now?

3) ............and isn't there a thread on this already?
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Old 01-03-2019, 07:40 AM
 
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Why would anyone leave a state that can't manage it finances?


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[url]https://nypost.com/2019/01/02/more-people-moved-out-of-this-state-than-any-other-in-america/[/url]

I see you're not real good in math are you?
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:02 AM
 
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I see you're not real good in math are you?
Not being good at math is thinking you can spend more money without raising taxes on the middle class or adding more debt.

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This “report” is flawed. It only includes data from one moving company and that is hardly accurate. Every year this company releases this garbage and the media eats it up. It’s like they have nothing else to print after the holidays so they waste space with this garbage. Jay
United Van Lines is one of the largest moving companies in the nation, they have no reason to make this up. They benefit from people moving within the state as opposed to across state lines if anything.

According to a report by the New Jersey Department of Labor and Workforce Development, over the next 15 years, New Jersey will continue to lag behind the nation in population growth. An NJBIA report shows that between 2004 and 2013, 2 million people left New Jersey.

Sources:
https://www.nj.gov/labor/lpa/content...034-Simple.pdf
https://www.njbia.org/economic-clima...grationreport/

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A few things here.........

1) who says he isn't?

2) The voter new what he was going to do, why complain now?

3) ............and isn't there a thread on this already?

1. Murphy increased taxes by over $1 billion and sat by and allowed the gas tax to be increased again. It's about actions, not words. Also, when Phil Murphy ate at one of the most expensive restaurants in the state the night when commuters were stuck on icy roads because of his failure to prepare for a November snowstorm, I think he showed just how in touch with people he really is.

2. Exit polling on election day 2017 found that after corruption in government, property taxes are the second most important issue to people. Murphy benefited from the unpopularity of Chris Christie and Donald Trump, but voters didn't necessarily say they support raising property taxes.

3. Yes
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Old 01-03-2019, 02:06 PM
 
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Sold our house in Chatham and we are moving in 3 weeks. Heading South and taking our businesses with us. Took forever to sell the house and got 20% less than bank appraised value from 3 years ago. Can no longer pay $18,000 in property taxes and it will get worse and fiscal liberals are starting to win the local elections. Morris County heading the way of Essex. If you come South, don't bring the liberal politics PLEASE!
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Old 01-03-2019, 02:46 PM
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There are lots of baby boomers retiring and moving to cheaper states/cheaper housing, like retirees have been doing from NJ (and the Northeast) for the last 50 years. For many people it is not just the money, it is also the weather. It would be interesting to see an age distribution of the report.
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Old 01-03-2019, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Summit, NJ
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I despise it when they don't use per capita data. Yeah, no kidding, NJ has more move-outs than South Dakota, they have more population and housing. Deuhrr.
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Old 01-03-2019, 05:22 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Just throwing out there, if I could buy a house for $250k and not pay like 6k in property taxes a year for a southern jersey town thatd be nice and id move there with my NJ native sig other.
Very doable in south jersey.
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Old 01-03-2019, 06:00 PM
 
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Sold our house in Chatham and we are moving in 3 weeks. Heading South and taking our businesses with us. Took forever to sell the house and got 20% less than bank appraised value from 3 years ago. Can no longer pay $18,000 in property taxes and it will get worse and fiscal liberals are starting to win the local elections. Morris County heading the way of Essex. If you come South, don't bring the liberal politics PLEASE!
http://www.city-data.com/forum/52903406-post4.html


Bless your heart.
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Old 01-03-2019, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Absent dependents, child-parent circumstances, why would someone with a modest retirement choose to stay in New Jersey? It's grab the cash and go!
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Old 01-03-2019, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Not being good at math is thinking you can spend more money without raising taxes on the middle class or adding more debt.



United Van Lines is one of the largest moving companies in the nation, they have no reason to make this up. They benefit from people moving within the state as opposed to across state lines if anything.

According to a report by the New Jersey Department of Labor and Workforce Development, over the next 15 years, New Jersey will continue to lag behind the nation in population growth. An NJBIA report shows that between 2004 and 2013, 2 million people left New Jersey.

Sources:
https://www.nj.gov/labor/lpa/content...034-Simple.pdf
https://www.njbia.org/economic-clima...grationreport/




1. Murphy increased taxes by over $1 billion and sat by and allowed the gas tax to be increased again. It's about actions, not words. Also, when Phil Murphy ate at one of the most expensive restaurants in the state the night when commuters were stuck on icy roads because of his failure to prepare for a November snowstorm, I think he showed just how in touch with people he really is.

2. Exit polling on election day 2017 found that after corruption in government, property taxes are the second most important issue to people. Murphy benefited from the unpopularity of Chris Christie and Donald Trump, but voters didn't necessarily say they support raising property taxes.

3. Yes
I did not say their data is wrong but people need to realize this is only one companyís data. Because they only analyze their own very limited data and not that from other moving companies, the conclusion that this ranking has any meaning or value is flawed. Other moving companies that donít track and release their moves to the media could be significantly different. For all we know it could show New Jersey is no where near the highest in move outs. Jay
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