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Old 09-04-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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Well...I wouldn't exactly call NJ's cold "brutal". It rarely goes below the 20s, and only for a few days. I think more of a problem is that once it snows, it looks beautiful for one day and then it turns to ugly gray slush once the exhaust fumes gets mixed in along the roads.

But then, last year we only had one or two snowfalls the entire winter.
Compared to Colorado, with its dry climate, the winter cold of NJ is brutal IMO. (Not as bad as Minnesota, the Dakotas, tho!) The difference is pretty dramatic, if you've not experienced a winter here. The same temps feel warmer in CO. We are also used to the snow disappearing after a day or two, so it never lingers and we don't get the exhaust snow or black ice. But, again, weather isn't driving this decision, but a consideration. Taxes are our biggest concern.
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Old 09-04-2019, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Hoboken, NJ
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Compared to Colorado, with its dry climate, the winter cold of NJ is brutal IMO. (Not as bad as Minnesota, the Dakotas, tho!) The difference is pretty dramatic, if you've not experienced a winter here. The same temps feel warmer in CO. We are also used to the snow disappearing after a day or two, so it never lingers and we don't get the exhaust snow or black ice. But, again, weather isn't driving this decision, but a consideration. Taxes are our biggest concern.
Seems like you've established a pretty nice life out in CO. Would you consider renting for, say, a 2-3 month period in NJ (late Summer/early Fall, etc) each year but maintaining your full time residence (even if downsized) in CO? That way, you could scratch that itch but not be here long enough to re-remember that it can be a pretty tough place to live year round.
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Old 09-04-2019, 05:01 PM
 
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Seems like you've established a pretty nice life out in CO. Would you consider renting for, say, a 2-3 month period in NJ (late Summer/early Fall, etc) each year but maintaining your full time residence (even if downsized) in CO? That way, you could scratch that itch but not be here long enough to re-remember that it can be a pretty tough place to live year round.
This is so helpful--a great idea--thank you! When I think about it, I may not need to be all-in at this point and what you're suggesting does make sense, especially since the rest of my family is not as familiar with FT life in NJ. For me, whenever I'm there for a visit, I feel at home even with the crummy weather, traffic, etc. It's about the people. I have high school friends I haven't seen in decades and when we talk, we pick up where we left off. For all the years I've lived in CO, which is a beautiful place, I've never felt at home here. Those Jersey roots run deep. Now, with all the changes in CO--a huge influx of people due to pot legalization, skyrocketing real estate prices, congested highways, increasing crime/traffic accidents, runaway homelessness issue...the quality of life is sadly changing.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to think out loud here and consider another option.

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Old 09-04-2019, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Compared to Colorado, with its dry climate, the winter cold of NJ is brutal IMO. (Not as bad as Minnesota, the Dakotas, tho!) The difference is pretty dramatic, if you've not experienced a winter here. The same temps feel warmer in CO. We are also used to the snow disappearing after a day or two, so it never lingers and we don't get the exhaust snow or black ice. But, again, weather isn't driving this decision, but a consideration. Taxes are our biggest concern.
I never spent a winter in Colorado, but I've stayed in rural Ontario several times during the last two winters. On January 1, 2018, I took a photo of the thermostat outside the window showing that it was -30F. And went outside and stood in it. Most days were somewhere between -10 and -20.

Drier cold does make a difference. I always heard people say that, and it's true. I was fine outside in those temps until I took my glove off to use my camera, and within a minute my bare hand was in pain.

I still wouldn't call Jersey's winters brutal.

Also, I spent most of my life in north Jersey, and now I live in Monmouth County, about five miles inland. It snows less here and is warmer in winter, also. Often when my mother is getting snow in NW Bergen County, I'm getting rain.
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Old 09-05-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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This is so helpful--a great idea--thank you! When I think about it, I may not need to be all-in at this point and what you're suggesting does make sense, especially since the rest of my family is not as familiar with FT life in NJ. For me, whenever I'm there for a visit, I feel at home even with the crummy weather, traffic, etc. It's about the people. I have high school friends I haven't seen in decades and when we talk, we pick up where we left off. For all the years I've lived in CO, which is a beautiful place, I've never felt at home here. Those Jersey roots run deep. Now, with all the changes in CO--a huge influx of people due to pot legalization, skyrocketing real estate prices, congested highways, increasing crime/traffic accidents, runaway homelessness issue...the quality of life is sadly changing.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to think out loud here and consider another option.
If you'd consider a transition some P/T to F/T life in NJ starting with summers spent in NJ, then I would 100% recommend the Shore and nowhere else. Red Bank, Long Branch, Asbury Park, etc. as already recommended. You can't be living at the Shore in summer if you don't have to commute into Manhattan. All the events come to you. There is always something going on. And yet you're just a 1:30-2:00 train into Manhattan for any city life culture you'd ever need.
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Old 09-05-2019, 09:32 AM
 
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If you'd consider a transition some P/T to F/T life in NJ starting with summers spent in NJ, then I would 100% recommend the Shore and nowhere else. Red Bank, Long Branch, Asbury Park, etc. as already recommended. You can't be living at the Shore in summer if you don't have to commute into Manhattan. All the events come to you. There is always something going on. And yet you're just a 1:30-2:00 train into Manhattan for any city life culture you'd ever need.
I think the transition option may be the smartest way to go. I'll start looking in Red Bank and Long Branch for a rental next summer. Both great areas.
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