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I was a product of nyc schools and I'm in a great profession and did well for going to college. Nyc has the specialized high schools that kids who test well can attend.
Is there a higher chance a city kid can fall between the cracks than a suburban NJ kid in a good town? Yes.
NJ has good schools on average but ironically it is harder for kids here to attend top colleges because of the competition.
Talking to parents, they tell me the Indian stay at home tiger moms will ensure their kids place in the top 10% of their high school class and those kids end up in top colleges. Much of the rest of the kids will end up at decent to mediocre schools for college.
Basically our kids are competing amongst ourselves for the same college spots. Once a NJ kid goes to college they tend to excel however because of the competitive experience they had in high school.
I never heard this one: "THE INDIANS-STAY-AT-HOME-TIGER-MOMS," they are a special group of immigrants, very-well-disciplined, respectful, friendly, helpful, and all they want their children is to succeed by being Scientists, Physicians, Presidents of the USA, and Attorneys, and high-end Business men and woman, these mothers spend their lives making sure their children learn in school and behave, and are taking over New Jersey, mile by mile.....those are the type of immigration that we need.....not the uneducated, poor, illegal-crime-prone and undocumented people that we are harboring......thanks to the Socialists that are selling- out America. God help us......
Jersey will miss the taxpayer dollars of all the high earners who leave because of high taxes tolls and congestion. I didn't decide yet if I will leave but for sure NJ will miss what I contributed financially if I'm gone.
I don't live in a crappy town. Not the most bougie town there is but definitely a relatively expensive one with blue ribbon schools.
The jersey shore is decent. Florida waters are much cleaner.
Florida waters are full of RED TIDE, even in Boca Raton and Naples......the waters are only clean part of the year...
I sincerely think that unless you're fairly certain that you want a career that requires you to have a college degree (medicine, law, accounting, etc.), it's probably best to get some real life work experience after high school for a few years. A bachelor's degree does little to prepare most people for the work force.
By today's standards: A Bachelor's Degree has the same equivalent than High School.......A Master and up will do it, a PH.D is better.....
I never heard this one: "THE INDIANS-STAY-AT-HOME-TIGER-MOMS," they are a special group of immigrants, very-well-disciplined, respectful, friendly, helpful, and all they want their children is to succeed by being Scientists, Physicians, Presidents of the USA, and Attorneys, and high-end Business men and woman, these mothers spend their lives making sure their children learn in school and behave, and are taking over New Jersey, mile by mile.....those are the type of immigration that we need.....not the uneducated, poor, illegal-crime-prone and undocumented people that we are harboring......thanks to the Socialists that are selling- out America. God help us......
I agree with this. I like respectful people who study and work hard and don't commit crime.
The point I made was a retort to all those saying how great NJ schools are. It's actually much harder for someone's kid to go to an ivy league or other top university coming out of NJ vs another state.
This is the student prep capital of the country and that is no fun as a parent or especially as a student.
It's miserable, in fact. I have high earning colleagues who send their kids to private schools to escape the competition and also give their kids a better shot at going to a good college.
Where I grew up kids attended private school for a more competitive academic experience and/ or so as not to get bullied or beat up physically. Things are different and weird to me in New Jersey.
2. NJ's housing market hasn't had a "crisis" (e.g. FL, NV, AZ, in '08/'09) in over 30 years
If there is a Black Swan event, it won't cause NJ's housing prices to crash -- the opposite is more likely.
Not really a crisis, but many towns had a slump. Many homes are selling at almost double the price they did in 2009/2010. Homes in commuter towns with excellent schools are always safe, but the rest do see slumps during recessions.
People live here because of the job opportunities in the area or because of family nearby. Many who are able to have an equivalent job elsewhere most likely would move. It's the most moved out of state because you don't get what you pay for.
Much of what we pay in taxes ends up in some public official's pocket either as a high salary or as part of their pension plan.
That's OK if these officials serve a purpose. Oftentimes there is so much redundancy. Every little town has its own police chief. Towns that bus their kids to neighboring towns for schooling ie) Rocky Hill have their own school board officials getting paid.
We pay so much in tolls yet the roads are in pretty bad condition. When they finally do repave a street it somehow becomes a huge multi-day production involving multiple police car babysitters.
Yes NYC is "nearby". So what? It's not typically a manageable drive in anymore and the tolls are ridiculous. There are so many nice cities out there these days a lot easier to deal with. NY has lost its luster.
Nobody says NJ is as good as it gets. I can think of many places in the country more scenic or with a better foodie restaurant scene than NJ. Think southern California. Now there you do get some semblance of what you pay for. Austin Texas? Even more.
That being said, NJ people hustle hard in life. We deal with demanding jobs (those of us who aren't getting handouts or on some good old boy gravy train), crazy road designs, congestion, extreme competition in schools for our kids, and we come out all the stronger for it. It's a great place for kids to grow up. It's relatively safe besides the bad cities (Newark etc).
California has too many natural disasters and crappy public schools for the all the money they pay.
That sounds like a recipe for stress and anxiety most people don't want to deal with.
CA was able to produce a housing crisis through crazy high taxes, surely Nj legislators and voters are capable of meeting or exceeding CA's legislative economic disaster.
CA was able to produce a housing crisis through crazy high taxes, surely Nj legislators and voters are capable of meeting or exceeding CA's legislative economic disaster.
I would say that most of the CA housing crisis was driven by an extremely overheated economy (in addition to its normal magnetic pull due to weather), coupled with geological constraints and unchecked NIMBY-ism. I don't think it really has anything to do with crazy high taxes.
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