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Old 10-03-2019, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Confines of the 101 Precinct
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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I read that. Terrible, but very believable. A hospital moved my dying brother to another hospital, where he died hours after being transported. He was going to die anyway, and we realized later that was the issue: The hospital didn't want their death rate to go over a certain number for that month, so they sent him to die elsewhere.

It's a business, and they need their numbers to look good.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:36 PM
 
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Wow. That is terrible. They even acknowledged it in recordings, but did it regardless.

Heads should roll
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Old 10-03-2019, 09:04 PM
 
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My question was why was this so necessary to do?
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Old 10-04-2019, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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My question was why was this so necessary to do?
"The recordings show that the transplant team was fixated on keeping him alive, rather than his quality of life or his family’s wishes, because of worries about the program’s survival rate, the proportion of people undergoing transplants who are still alive a year after their operations, a ProPublica investigation found. Federal regulators rely on this statistic to evaluate — and sometimes penalize — transplant programs, giving hospitals across the country a reputational and financial incentive to game it. Newark Beth Israel’s one-year survival rate for heart transplants had dipped, and if Young were to die too soon, the program’s standing and even its own survival might be in jeopardy."

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Old 10-04-2019, 08:20 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I read that. Terrible, but very believable. A hospital moved my dying brother to another hospital, where he died hours after being transported. He was going to die anyway, and we realized later that was the issue: The hospital didn't want their death rate to go over a certain number for that month, so they sent him to die elsewhere.

It's a business, and they need their numbers to look good.
Classic move!


Been doing that within a hospital too. don't want anyone to die in certain wards so they get moved.


If that then what, should be asked when inspecting any hospital or big business.


Complain about a fever blister and they order a super costly product with potential side effects instead of a tube of abbreva.


Get the list of attending docs, who you never saw. Then realize the doc that did attend and whose name you remembered was not on that list.


Want you to take a blood thinner, as a precaution for anyone hospitalized, raise concerns and be told, 'don't worry if anything bad happens we are here to monitor you'. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah man look at him twitch, he's foaming at the mouth now , okay we did our observation, we're good'.


Mom is in hospital, crusty ears, hearing aid that is of dubious value. she does her best to hear the questions being asked. So sometimes her answers do not match the question. Instead of considering that she may be hard of hearing they order a psych eval instead of an EENT. $$$$$$$$$$


Just saying, hospitals are critical to our survival when medical care is required, but their accounting practices need to be criminalized.


what's the figure, 100k deaths each year due to medical errors????
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Old 10-04-2019, 09:10 AM
 
Location: NYC
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This is why we need to move away from insurance based healthcare system like other 1st world countries. Hospitals here have incentives to keep patients that have chronic problems and milk them with claims.
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:50 AM
 
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This is why we need to move away from insurance based healthcare system like other 1st world countries. Hospitals here have incentives to keep patients that have chronic problems and milk them with claims.
Or they have an incentive to NOT take high risk patients because they will have poor outcomes and end up under review.
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Confines of the 101 Precinct
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"The recordings show that the transplant team was fixated on keeping him alive, rather than his quality of life or his family’s wishes, because of worries about the program’s survival rate, the proportion of people undergoing transplants who are still alive a year after their operations, a ProPublica investigation found. Federal regulators rely on this statistic to evaluate — and sometimes penalize — transplant programs, giving hospitals across the country a reputational and financial incentive to game it. Newark Beth Israel’s one-year survival rate for heart transplants had dipped, and if Young were to die too soon, the program’s standing and even its own survival might be in jeopardy."

https://www.nj.com/news/2019/10/nj-h...n-reveals.html
Meh

At the end of the day, how much of a good standing was the program even on that they had to resort to this?
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Old 10-04-2019, 12:20 PM
 
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Meh

At the end of the day, how much of a good standing was the program even on that they had to resort to this?
The story I heard (on npr) was that 2018 was a bad year for them and an anomaly. Do you know differently?
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