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Old 10-26-2019, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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I would say they're jumping through hoops to help the children already by effectively giving them free food.
No disagreement, and as it should be.

But it's two separate issues. Don't punish the kids because the parents screw up. This is the chance to break the chain so that the kids see there's a different way and don't repeat their parents' mistakes. Humiliating them to gain a petty sense of satisfaction over a few dollars won't bring about any change.
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Old 10-26-2019, 11:16 PM
 
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How do you know that its the majority? That has not been my experience working with thousands of low income families and children in NJ. Many of these children don’t even live with their parents.
What makes you think that it isn't?

How do I know? I actually work in the trenches. What do you do.... again?

How, exactly, have you "worked" with "thousands of low income families and children"? You ask them what they'd like to eat?

What does this have to do with children who don't live with their parents? Their foster parents can't figure out how to feed them, either?

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Old 10-27-2019, 06:14 AM
 
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What makes you think that it isn't?

How do I know? I actually work in the trenches. What do you do.... again?

How, exactly, have you "worked" with "thousands of low income families and children"? You ask them what they'd like to eat?

What does this have to do with children who don't live with their parents? Their foster parents can't figure out how to feed them, either?
I’ve read in your previous posts that you cite your data. That’s a good thing and I’d appreciate any sources other than personal experience because everything I’ve read and seen indicate otherwise.

Yes, families are asked about their eating habits. Rutgers inst food nutrition and health and the food policy councils do surveys. Also food atlas https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-produc...ronment-atlas/ and reports like kids count report include relevant data.
It’s great you work in the trenches, it’s a tough environment.
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Old 10-27-2019, 02:11 PM
 
Location: NYC
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How do you know that its the majority? That has not been my experience working with thousands of low income families and children in NJ. Many of these children don’t even live with their parents.
I have a former co-worker who makes six figures that games this. To me it's embarrassingly petite to save $5 a day just to do this. His wife is a office worker that makes $40k-ish and he files taxes separately which I thought was absurd as you can't maximize your deductions if you do this. Well, whatever he thinks that gives him the most bang for the buck.

My quarterly income from my investment affords me to eat out all my meals but I don't need to worry about my kids school meals.
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Old 10-31-2019, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Interesting development:

https://www.nj.com/essex/2019/10/chu...districts.html
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Old 10-31-2019, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Union City, NJ
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I have a former co-worker who makes six figures that games this. To me it's embarrassingly petite to save $5 a day just to do this. His wife is a office worker that makes $40k-ish and he files taxes separately which I thought was absurd as you can't maximize your deductions if you do this. Well, whatever he thinks that gives him the most bang for the buck.

My quarterly income from my investment affords me to eat out all my meals but I don't need to worry about my kids school meals.


My accountant also suggested me and my wife file separately. Something about a tax credit for the kids.
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Old 11-02-2019, 10:22 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Ask the kids what they eat for lunch when not in school.


That should give a reference for proposed meals.


How many kids take their lunch to school?


Too often academics combine all data and then make generalizations. Generalizations tend to not work in real world situations, though work perfectly in statistical summaries to have data to support a narrative.


Parents in arrears should be ticketed with a fine for twice the amount owed, unless paid within 1 week.


Kids in the program eat regardless.


Wasted food should be weighed, recorded and tossed in the mandatory compost pile on the school grounds to support the vegetable garden the kids volunteer to maintain. Kids that volunteer to grow veggies for school lunch are exempt from being charged for food or given a reduced rate.


Some teacher can then earn more cash for overseeing that extracurricular activity......and hand that money over to the union in their pay for play scam.
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