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Old 01-21-2020, 10:40 AM
 
Location: NYC
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This will be interesting to see how far Englewood Cliffs would stretch to keep developers out. I believe the town has the most concentration of millionaires in NJ.

Meanwhile no democrats dare to even put together legislation to repeal or over-rule the Mount Laurel Doctrine which will likely cause tax increases for many towns or force them to commercialize the land to get more tax revenue to support low income residents.
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Old 01-23-2020, 06:43 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I will never understand this particular hypocrisy of NJ democrats. They claim to care about the environment, yet they are forcing towns to build on every last piece of open land. Towns that once had ordinances allowing only single family homes that can only take up a small portion of the lot, are now forced to allow builders to build apartment buildings, condos, and townhouses with parking lots that take up the whole lot. Covering all the land with cement and pavement, and cutting down all the trees. How is that good for the environment?
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:32 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I don't think that's the real problem. You see, most NJ towns have ignored the Mount Laurel doctrine for decades. So any developer can exploit this requirement as a way to sue the towns if they were blocked from building developments. Anytime a land acquisition deal is taking shape, the residents and towns would block it from happening. Then a developer would simply sue and use the doctrine in order for these judges to grant their way.
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Old 01-23-2020, 10:49 PM
 
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I will never understand this particular hypocrisy of NJ democrats. They claim to care about the environment, yet they are forcing towns to build on every last piece of open land. Towns that once had ordinances allowing only single family homes that can only take up a small portion of the lot, are now forced to allow builders to build apartment buildings, condos, and townhouses with parking lots that take up the whole lot. Covering all the land with cement and pavement, and cutting down all the trees. How is that good for the environment?
Is it better for the environment to leave all this open space near employment centers, bulldoze farmland in the boondocks to build new housing, and have people drive for hours each way to their jobs?
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Old 01-24-2020, 05:27 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Is it better for the environment to leave all this open space near employment centers, bulldoze farmland in the boondocks to build new housing, and have people drive for hours each way to their jobs?
You are making an assumption that I don't think is particularly accurate. There is plenty of room right in the middle of the employment centers. Cities have the ability to build upwards. There is virtually unlimited amounts of potential living space in, what is now, the sky, and it doesn’t require a bigger footprint as you are using land that is already paved over. Why not incentivize building there instead?

Do we really need to turn the green suburbs into cities too?
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Old 01-24-2020, 06:11 PM
 
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You are making an assumption that I don't think is particularly accurate. There is plenty of room right in the middle of the employment centers. Cities have the ability to build upwards. There is virtually unlimited amounts of potential living space in, what is now, the sky, and it doesn’t require a bigger footprint as you are using land that is already paved over. Why not incentivize building there instead?
You mean like they're doing in NYC? Is that increasing the supply of affordable housing?
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Old 01-24-2020, 06:35 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Gone are the days when suburban towns could foist off their affordable housing responsibilities on cities who really didn't want any more affordable housing. Now the chickens have come home to roost. Karma is a real b---h! Englewood Cliffs, time to tear down a couple seedier mansions and erect that multi-storied 400 unit apartment complex! Oh Noooooooooo! Ridgewood, time to turn that old hospital into affordable housing units! Oh Noooooooooo! Your turn. Too bad ...so sad!
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