Downtown area below grove street JC (Newark, Jersey City: real estate, apartments, leasing)

[PTC]

Hey guys, can anyone help me out? I have been to the area in Jersey City by van vorst park, below grove street, and it looked real nice. I visited it on the weekend a couple times and during the week a couple times. How is the area below christopher columbus and east of monmouth street? I wouldn't bring my car to the area, but I am wondering how safe it is at night. Thanks

[JERSEY MAN]

That area is fairly safe BUT and a big BUT is it is Jersey City. In other areas you have gang bangers blowing each other away. Last Friday one walked up to three people and shot them all in the head. 2 died and 1 ready to die. That is a mile or 2 from your location in question. JM

[tommyc_37]

Dear God what is everybody's problem with JC?? To PTC...I live on Van Vorst Park. It's a beautiful neighborhood, and it is EXTREMELY safe. As safe or safer than Hoboken. There's not even any bad neighborhoods close to this neighborhood Jersey Man. I live here. It is as SAFE as any city neighborhood can be. It's also very beautiful.

[JERSEY MAN]

Originally Posted by tommyc_37

Dear God what is everybody's problem with JC?? To PTC...I live on Van Vorst Park. It's a beautiful neighborhood, and it is EXTREMELY safe. As safe or safer than Hoboken. There's not even any bad neighborhoods close to this neighborhood Jersey Man. I live here. It is as SAFE as any city neighborhood can be. It's also very beautiful.

Tommy, If you read the post I said it's a mile or two away. Please don't tell me about safety and crime rates as I drove one of the white cars with the red lights on the roof for over 30 years in your area. We tell the public what they want to hear and I guess your listening. I'm sticking up for the area, as I said its fairly safe.
Highrise murder victim was shot in the head, police say

by Michaelangelo Conte Thursday November 08, 2007, 1:47 PM



An autopsy has determined the man found dead in a Jersey City luxury high rise yesterday had been shot in the back of the head, as well as bludgeoned, as was initially reported.
"We believe the suspect was acquainted with the victim and that this could have been a dispute over money owed," Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio said of the murder of Michael Marro, 39.

Marro was found dead in his 15th floor apartment in Portside Tower at about 3 p.m. yesterday by his father, who was checking on Marro because he had not shown up for work yesterday, DeFazio said.
Marro works at a South Kearny trucking company owned by his father, DeFazio said, adding that he lived alone.
When homicide detectives arrived at the bloody scene they found Marro's badly beaten body near a door in the apartment leading to a balcony, DeFazio said. The bullet wound was not found until an autopsy was performed at the state Regional Medical Examiner's Office in Newark, DeFazio said, adding that his office was notified by the medical examiner this morning.
The preliminary autopsy report is expected later today, DeFazio said, adding that the cause of death will be determined by the autopsy.
Investigators recovered security video from the high-rise and DeFazio said the images captured were helpful but do not give a positive identification of the killer, at least not at this point.
He would not give further details.
Homicide detectives think the murder occurred late Tuesday night and say Marro was seen earlier that evening, DeFazio said. Studio apartments in the 17-story building begin at $1,800 a month and apartments run from $2,400 to $6,000, according to the Web site for the building.
"We are working with police and have no information to release," Building Leasing Consultant Mike Leibowitz said this morning. "As soon as we do, we will release it to residents and will make it avalable to the press."


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aid it's fairly safe. JM

[tommyc_37]

Jersey man, I hear ya...but when did you retire? The neighborhood has undergone a remarkable transformation, even in the last year or so. It is safe to walk around this neighborhood at any time of the night.

[MJJersey]

I liked in Downtown Jersey City and never had a problem. One of my neighbors told me that Downtown JC was safer than hoboken, which is true in a way. However, Jersey City is still Jersey City. People get shot in certain parts of JC, just like they do in Hoboken, New York, Newark and other urban areas. Personally, I'd recommend the area if you can afford it. I'm thinking of moving back myself, but real estate prices and rents in the area are steep.

[JERSEY MAN]

Originally Posted by tommyc_37

Jersey man, I hear ya...but when did you retire? The neighborhood has undergone a remarkable transformation, even in the last year or so. It is safe to walk around this neighborhood at any time of the night.

Tommy I'm still working and I love JC, I'm one of it's biggest supporters but I also throw out some of the crime stats. I just pasted the murder at the portside 6 months ago in the prior post. And yes that area is THE BEST AREA OF JC but there is still crime.

[tommyc_37]

Sure...I just don't want people to get a bad impression of the neighborhood. A city is a city...crimes happen in any city. It's a part of city life. But for the record, in 2 years of living here, I have not ONCE felt unsafe, not even in the least. It's an awesome neighborhood. Hey Jersey Man....your name isn't Steve by any chance, is it?

[JERSEY MAN]

Originally Posted by tommyc_37

Sure...I just don't want people to get a bad impression of the neighborhood. A city is a city...crimes happen in any city. It's a part of city life. But for the record, in 2 years of living here, I have not ONCE felt unsafe, not even in the least. It's an awesome neighborhood. Hey Jersey Man....your name isn't Steve by any chance, is it?

I'm not telling tommy but here is another robbery of a man in a wheelchair in the area could you believe this.
Puerto Rican parade president assaulted, robbed Downtown, he says

by Michaelangelo Conte Friday May 09, 2008, 4:55 PM


The wheelchair-bound president of Jersey City's Puerto Rican Day Parade was brutally robbed by two men Downtown early this morning and pummeled with such force that he was knocked out of his wheelchair.
"When I realized he was about four feet away from me I covered up my face and he kneed me in my liver and knocked me right over," said Antonio Torres, 30, who was attacked at Newark Avenue and Monmouth Street while making his way home at 2:05 a.m. after a night out. "Once I was on the ground one of them put my arm behind my back and tried to keep me on the floor while the other guy went through my pockets."

Torres, of Montgomery Street, is also the chief of staff for Hudson County Freeholder Eliu Rivera, D-Jersey City.
Torres said he'd been selling raffle tickets to raise money for the Puerto Rican Day Parade and Heritage Festival and the thugs took an envelope containing $320 of the proceeds, as well as $10 of his own money.
While he was down one of the men punched him in the stomach but luckily another vehicle pulled up and the robbers ran back to their waiting getaway car and the driver sped them off, he said.
"I know I'm an easy target because I'm in a wheelchair but everyone knows who I am and all the cops know me, that's what leads me to believe they weren't from around here," said Torres, who is a community activist and once ran for city council.
Anyone with information on the crime is asked to call the Jersey City Police Department's tipline at (201) 547-5245.
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[PTC]

i agree the area is gorgeous, but I also thought it seemed a little sketchy... a block past varick street had a slug of welfare homes and projects not far from that pathmark. I was wondering how a place so nice could exist right next door.