Northern, Central or Southern NJ - The best place? (Trenton: neighborhoods, good schools)

[pbergen]

Originally Posted by mike0421

If you did that to South Jersey, there would be nobody posting there. I can think of maybe 3-4 regular posters on this forum that hail from Burlington County southward. Then there are other dynamics, such as one's opinion of what comprises what region of the state. Ocean County comes to mind immediately. It's my opinion Ocean is Central NJ because it is in the NYC orbit in terms of commuting, and where people have originated from. Point Pleasant, latitudinally, however, is in line with Northeast Philly. So, someone else who may not understand the dynamic of the state as well would label Ocean County as South Jersey. Tahiti and I also brought up Warren County yesterday. Some might feel that portions of southern Warren County are more in line with Central NJ. These little nuances are due to population dispersion and the makeup of those dispersed, more than latitude and longitude. That's why subcategorizing NJ by region isn't as fluid as you might encounter when adjudicating what comprises a region of another state.

yeah, i hear ya on the difficulty of where to draw the dividing line. there are areas that have an nyc/philly overlap and areas that are clearly in the southern portion of the state but fall within the nyc orbit, as you mentioned.

but i was thinking that upon clicking on each subforum (north jersey vs. south jersey), there could be a message at the top of the screen saying "this forum is for the following counties (list counties) and for metro nyc (or metro philly)."

if there aren't that many south jersey posters, though, then i agree, no need to separate.

[pbergen]

Originally Posted by MoorestownResident

Not true at all. Plenty of NYC commuters live in Moorestown, it is about 2 hours.

really? that's shocking to me. i'm not disputing what you're saying since you live there, but that commute would be beyond brutal to say the least.

how would they even commute up to nyc? would they drive to hamilton or trenton and then take the train into manhattan? or are there express buses that head up the turnpike to the port authority bus terminal (like the buses from northeast pa/poconos)?

[emanon]

Originally Posted by MoorestownResident

Not true at all. Plenty of NYC commuters live in Moorestown, it is about 2 hours.

What is your definition of plenty.......five people?

Anybody who spends two hours each way to work is not a commuter, they are a masochist.

[mike0421]

Originally Posted by emanon

What is your definition of plenty.......five people?

Anybody who spends two hours each way to work is not a commuter, they are a masochist.

Emanon,

Moorestownresident is correct. When I lived in Medford, which is about equidistant, the majority (not 5) of people who lived there did not drive towards Philly in the morning. They headed up Rt 541 or Rt 206 to get to the NJ Turnpike. There was not a clear majority of exactly where people were commuting to, but I would say a plurality of people were commuting to Middlesex County and points north to work. Some worked in Mercer around Trenton, however, the aspect of living in Burlington County that surprised me more than any other was the amount of people who were traveling towards NYC to go to work. Hardly anyone was going west towards Camden County, which one would think we be more logical.

[MoorestownResident]

First of all, a 2 hour commute to NYC is fairly common. Average commute is over an hour. People in Moorestown drive 20-25 minutes up 295 to Hamilton Train station and take the express. You'll get to Penn Station in 1 hour, that's 1.5 hours plus whatever it takes for subway, walking, cab etc. It can be done an hour 40 or so if you leave very early and have a short walk in Manhattan.

Although I agree it is not 'reasonable' it is very doable and there are a lot more than 5 people doing it. They want quality of life and not to be out in the boonies. They prefer access to Philly and NYC. I know from Mount Laurel there is a commuter bus to NYC. It is more common than you think.

[MoorestownResident]

Originally Posted by mike0421

Emanon,

Moorestownresident is correct. When I lived in Medford, which is about equidistant, the majority (not 5) of people who lived there did not drive towards Philly in the morning. They headed up Rt 541 or Rt 206 to get to the NJ Turnpike. There was not a clear majority of exactly where people were commuting to, but I would say a plurality of people were commuting to Middlesex County and points north to work. Some worked in Mercer around Trenton, however, the aspect of living in Burlington County that surprised me more than any other was the amount of people who were traveling towards NYC to go to work. Hardly anyone was going west towards Camden County, which one would think we be more logical.

Absolutely correct. More and more people over the years move south to commute north. NYC is very accessible from South Jersey. I commuted to Madison from Moorestown for about a year. Medford is a tougher gig though. Moorestown's location to 295 is key.

[shannybannany]

I voted to keep the forum as is. If you search my posts, I have posted on many different areas of the state. I grew up in Monmouth county, lived in Bergen and Essex counties and currently live in Camden county. I have vacationed in Ocean and Atlantic counties and I love reading posts from the folks in NW Jersey because I don't know it well and it is very interesting reading. I thought this forum was for information about the STATE of NJ.

Again, as Tahiti said, this was discussed, quasi-voted on and the consensus was to just leave it alone.

JMO...but again, who cares what SJ thinks, right?

Shanny

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by emanon

I guess those people in North Carolina are just a little bit smarter than their counterparts in NJ

E

don't know what you mean.

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by pbergen

yeah, i hear ya on the difficulty of where to draw the dividing line. there are areas that have an nyc/philly overlap and areas that are clearly in the southern portion of the state but fall within the nyc orbit, as you mentioned.

but i was thinking that upon clicking on each subforum (north jersey vs. south jersey), there could be a message at the top of the screen saying "this forum is for the following counties (list counties) and for metro nyc (or metro philly)."

if there aren't that many south jersey posters, though, then i agree, no need to separate.

there aren't.

[Busch Boy]

When you don't consider Moorestown, Medford, Medford Lakes, Mt. Laurel, Haddonfield, Voorhees, Mullica Hill and Cherry Hill; what else is left in South Jersey?