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Old 06-28-2008, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I have never commuted in northern/central NJ - I have only passed through the state on road trips usually during off-peak times.

My question is:

For those of you who live and commute in northern and/or central NJ (either within the state or to NYC), and have lived in/visited other major metro areas, how does the traffic/gridlock/rush hours compare to other major metro areas with notorious traffic problems (i.e. Los Angles metro area, the DC/NOVA/MD area, Chicago, Atlanta etc.) ?

I have always assumed it is not as bad as it could be given that public transportation to the city is extensive and well-used.
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Old 06-28-2008, 03:08 PM
 
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I have been to LA, DC, NOVA during rush hours

So let me tell, NNJ, and CNJ has worse traffic

Our traffic actually covers a larger area

LA, DC, NOVA does not have our density, there highways may be as bad, but their local streets are fine for the most part
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:13 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I've been to Los Angeles and I live in Bergen County.
I think that it's 60/50. Well, LA has more cars than people in NJ.
But people often says that LA has worse traffic during rush hour.
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Old 06-29-2008, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania & New Jersey
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Minority opinion here, but I respectfully disagree. LA and DC are worse than North and Central New Jersey ... unless compared with commuting daily by car from NJ into NYC. That's simply madness! On the whole, I'd rather deal with New Jersey traffic than LA or DC.
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Old 06-29-2008, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Minority opinion here, but I respectfully disagree. LA and DC are worse than North and Central New Jersey ... unless compared with commuting daily by car from NJ into NYC. That's simply madness! On the whole, I'd rather deal with New Jersey traffic than LA or DC.
I think your assessment seems reasonable - I always felt that the LA area, having visited has the worst traffic gridlock on highways by far in the U.S. DC is probably comparable to NNJ.

NYC street and highway and tunnel/bridge traffic are nightmares of course, but that is not something I'd be dealing with regularly living and working on the NJ side.....
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:25 AM
 
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Minority opinion here, but I respectfully disagree. LA and DC are worse than North and Central New Jersey ... unless compared with commuting daily by car from NJ into NYC. That's simply madness! On the whole, I'd rather deal with New Jersey traffic than LA or DC.
I would have to agree with you MaverickDD.
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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Hard to compare. But we as impatient humans should make the comparisons in measures of time not volume. Some states build roads to handle volume. NJ does not. But dont frett. NJs neighbor Pennsylvania has the most antiquated functionally obsolete roads in America.

Southern California has more people then NJ but more spread out and by leaps and bounds have the highway infrastructure to carry the volume of cars that NJ can not. Granted California is broke and all their roads and bridges are disintegrating and deteriorating at a rapid rate but they can still carry far far more volume then NJs roads. Just a tad more bumpier.

After you leave NJ highways you are on one lane Horse and buggy roads. Most of them have no turning lanes and many dont even have shoulders. In California most of the secondary roads or commerce roads are multi lane with center turn lanes and right deceleration and acceleration lanes.

If you know some secrets about Cali drivers you can do just fine there. Lets take I-5. 8 lanes wide in each direction in most areas. But everyone piles up in the left lane. I have driven I-5 in the heart of rush hour. The left lane is dead stopped. The next to left lane is barely creeping. With each lane closer to the right lane the traffic is moving faster. The far right lane is empty. Void of any cars. It is against California custom to use the right lane. So Im in the right lane doing 80 and looking at all the fools in the left lane punching the steering wheel in frustration.

Then you have other types of traffic jams. In Las Vegas which is world famous for their unsynchronized lights. Here you have not as many cars but they pile up at each light for miles. Personally I believe Vegas is worse then Cali when measuring time of commute but not because of volume.

Lets talk speed. California drivers are the fastest in America. Fast does not necessarily better drivers but I will give them credit for being more skilled. In NJ, other then the TPK or PKY and maybe 80, few even do the speed limit.

There are worse and better commutes but this thread was comparing NJ to CA so I left it at that.

Carry on.........................
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