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Old 07-24-2008, 11:53 PM
 
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do you honestly think the govt can get bigger than it already is under the f**king chimp right now???? McCANT is an old wrinkled raisin who brings absolutely nothing new to the table in terms of ideas, motivation or anything for that matter. He walks around all angry and disgruntled, making gaffe after gaffe while screaming about keeping a failed war going. I keep waiting for him to scream "we're going back into 'Nam!!"
With "universal healthcare" and every thing else the dems and your boy Barry is proposing...ummm...yes. Are you aware of what big gov't is? I'm thinking you don't.

You should be ashamed of yourself for the last sentence in this post of yours. The man was a POW. DEMOCRATS got this country into 'nam.
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:31 AM
 
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I think people should also take and pass a few courses in ethics and morality and severall other things before voting too... but sadly they don't.

I don't assume anyone making $250k is rich or not working for it. I also KNOW for a fact that a lot of people working for $25k a year are working their arses off too...sometimes harder than those making $250k per year...

It's not a disdain for the rich... it's a disdain for those who really don't give a rats @ss about anyone but themselves... I really have no problem with my tax $ going to give a child a life saving operation if they don't have the money or insurance for it. And I don't even care *gasp* if that child is illegal... because a child is a child. A human is a human. It's not all about $$$$ all the time... he who dies with the most toys DOES NOT WIN. I'd rather bail out a poor family than a greedy, corrupt corporation ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. But that's just me.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not poor. I'm not rich either. I can't beleive what it takes financially to live around here some days... and I don't love paying taxes... but it's a necessary evil. I've never had a hand out - ever. I have worked since I'm 15 and I'm not for enabling people to be on welfare or anything like that.

BUT when we have had a President who has DESTROYED our country to levels that would have been unimaginable 8 years ago I am NOT willing to put someone who is legislatively on par with him in again... no way in hades. Sometimes VISION can outweigh EXPERIENCE. As far as I see McCain has been in Washington a long time and is just a long time part of everything that is wrong... any candidate is a gamble... I'm willing to roll the dice rather than face a certain dismal future.
Ethics and morality have nothing to do with the overall cyclical nature of the economy.

How do you decide, while perched in the highest ethical branches of your morality tree, who give a rats a@@ about those other than themselves or not ? Are you psychic?

Ethics? You're talking about politicians. There are no ethics. ANd that goes for Obama. You do know the church he attended for 20 years and the pastor of the church that he "WAS friends" with. Obama and Michelle kinda like Farrakhan. Don't decieve yourself.

Spare me the drama with the "president who DESTROYED" anything. What did Clinton do with the terrorist attacks that happend under his watch? Played another song on the sax for Babs? Clinton had Osama offered to him...he chose to let him go. MORON.

Vision? You're talking about Obama? It's not vision, it's pandering. There's a huge difference. He has found out what people want to hear and he's spoon feeding it to them. The man has a public speaking issue...if he were a republican you'd have noticed it by now.

Is Barry even eligible to run for POTUS? What that issue resovled?

Did he take the donations from the KKK or give them back?

Where's his dead grandma who apparently rose from the dead? Why don't we hear from his grandparents? Why is this overlooked? He's so hesitant (read: doesn't ever) to discuss the 50% white side of him b/c it's not going to get those votes that he needs.

"typical white person?" God help the white candidate elect who says "typical black person" if referring to his gramma or NOT!

The only dismal future for this county is when socialism sets in deeper than it already has.

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Old 07-25-2008, 12:46 AM
 
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Hey, let me tell you - I have a friend who is in the States due to work... he doesn't HATE it, but he is not loving it. He is from Denmark. His taxes would make ours look like the deal of a lifetime...and he said he'd rather live there than here any day of the week. His healthcare is taken care of, schooling is taken care of, you have guaranteed vacation time even at a brand new job... he said the quality of life is 10x better and no one is kililng themselves the way we do here.

Of course Denmark doesn't have to finance a debacle in Iraq....
Denmark has one of the highest taxation rates in Europe.

63%. How is that the deal of anything?

Did he serve in the military? You know he did. It's required. It's called "conscription". You wanna go serve?

Healthcare? You're more likely to die waiting for cancer treatment than to even get treated in Denmark. What a bonus!

Huge unions sponsored by the social dimocrats in Denmark.

Hey, most Europeans don't like to work. They aren't used to it. Mandated 6 weeks vacation and a 40 hour work week. Who wouldn't like it? But there is a huge difference between a socialistic country and one that thrives on capitalism.

If you think it's a great deal, why are you still here?

Please tell me you made this up.
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Stewartsville, NJ
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Denmark has one of the highest taxation rates in Europe.

63%. How is that the deal of anything?

Did he serve in the military? You know he did. It's required. It's called "conscription". You wanna go serve?

Healthcare? You're more likely to die waiting for cancer treatment than to even get treated in Denmark. What a bonus!

Huge unions sponsored by the social dimocrats in Denmark.

Hey, most Europeans don't like to work. They aren't used to it. Mandated 6 weeks vacation and a 40 hour work week. Who wouldn't like it? But there is a huge difference between a socialistic country and one that thrives on capitalism.

If you think it's a great deal, why are you still here?

Please tell me you made this up.
Most Europeans don't like to work?????????? I know many Europeans and let me tell you - they work harder and longer hours than most Americans do! And for alot less money. And most own their own homes. Your comment is ignorant! It's Americans who are lazy my friend!!! Besides the point that this argument is a moot point. This country will never see a national health system. There's way to much money changing hands in the health insurance and prescription drug industries. Not to mentioned lost jobs... both of these industries employ a large majority of Americans.
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:50 AM
 
Location: THE TRIAD
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How can you support him and not know, for yourself, where Barry's support is coming from?

Here's a short list:

Vote Hope/Power Pac : what is your problem with this and with Power Pac? That they are run and promote black and minority agendas?


American Federation of Teachers: a union that fights to make sure that teachers are given fair living wages and a decent pension? What's the problem here?

Unite Here: another union, problem?

Exelon: a group that fights off greenhouse gasses, problem?

Service Employees International:yes another union...


Repudiates them with one hand and accepts the money with the other.

I never said noone else does or ever did.

But you know, if you live in NJ, how powerful some of these unions can be.

so your problem is with UNIONS
hmmmm, very telling.
I'm no longer wasting my time with this one.
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:53 AM
 
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Ethics and morality have nothing to do with the overall cyclical nature of the economy.

How do you decide, while perched in the highest ethical branches of your morality tree, who give a rats a@@ about those other than themselves or not ? Are you psychic?

Ethics? You're talking about politicians. There are no ethics. ANd that goes for Obama. You do know the church he attended for 20 years and the pastor of the church that he "WAS friends" with. Obama and Michelle kinda like Farrakhan. Don't decieve yourself.

Spare me the drama with the "president who DESTROYED" anything. What did Clinton do with the terrorist attacks that happend under his watch? Played another song on the sax for Babs? Clinton had Osama offered to him...he chose to let him go. MORON.

Vision? You're talking about Obama? It's not vision, it's pandering. There's a huge difference. He has found out what people want to hear and he's spoon feeding it to them. The man has a public speaking issue...if he were a republican you'd have noticed it by now.

Is Barry even eligible to run for POTUS? What that issue resovled?

Did he take the donations from the KKK or give them back?

Where's his dead grandma who apparently rose from the dead? Why don't we hear from his grandparents? Why is this overlooked? He's so hesitant (read: doesn't ever) to discuss the 50% white side of him b/c it's not going to get those votes that he needs.

"typical white person?" God help the white candidate elect who says "typical black person" if referring to his gramma or NOT!

The only dismal future for this county is when socialism sets in deeper than it already has.



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Old 07-25-2008, 05:53 AM
 
Location: THE TRIAD
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With "universal healthcare" and every thing else the dems and your boy Barry is proposing...ummm...yes. Are you aware of what big gov't is? I'm thinking you don't.

You should be ashamed of yourself for the last sentence in this post of yours. The man was a POW. DEMOCRATS got this country into 'nam.
John mcCANT is a laughing stock. the John mcCANT of 2008 is not someone to be proud of and doesn't deserve the support of a hangnail.
His policies suck, his agenda sucks....
oh and his "health care" plan is a JOKE. the system we have in place now is just working so damn well lets just continue it!!!!
Any person who willingly hugs the man who ran a race based smear campaign against his own daughter deserves to be sent BACK to 'Nam
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:56 AM
 
Location: THE TRIAD
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Originally Posted by JerseyG View Post
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Ethics and morality have nothing to do with the overall cyclical nature of the economy.

How do you decide, while perched in the highest ethical branches of your morality tree, who give a rats a@@ about those other than themselves or not ? Are you psychic?

Ethics? You're talking about politicians. There are no ethics. ANd that goes for Obama. You do know the church he attended for 20 years and the pastor of the church that he "WAS friends" with. Obama and Michelle kinda like Farrakhan. Don't decieve yourself.

Spare me the drama with the "president who DESTROYED" anything. What did Clinton do with the terrorist attacks that happend under his watch? Played another song on the sax for Babs? Clinton had Osama offered to him...he chose to let him go. MORON.

Vision? You're talking about Obama? It's not vision, it's pandering. There's a huge difference. He has found out what people want to hear and he's spoon feeding it to them. The man has a public speaking issue...if he were a republican you'd have noticed it by now.

Is Barry even eligible to run for POTUS? What that issue resovled?

Did he take the donations from the KKK or give them back?

Where's his dead grandma who apparently rose from the dead? Why don't we hear from his grandparents? Why is this overlooked? He's so hesitant (read: doesn't ever) to discuss the 50% white side of him b/c it's not going to get those votes that he needs.

"typical white person?" God help the white candidate elect who says "typical black person" if referring to his gramma or NOT!

The only dismal future for this county is when socialism sets in deeper than it already has.
uh-oh Ralphie, someone here doesn't like when "dem blacks" have an opinion. Keep grasping to those rumors, lies and bs you are getting from lord knows where! Wait, I know.."real patriots!"

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
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Old 07-25-2008, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Weehawken, NJ
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John mcCANT is a laughing stock. the John mcCANT of 2008 is not someone to be proud of and doesn't deserve the support of a hangnail.
His policies suck, his agenda sucks....
oh and his "health care" plan is a JOKE. the system we have in place now is just working so damn well lets just continue it!!!!
Any person who willingly hugs the man who ran a race based smear campaign against his own daughter deserves to be sent BACK to 'Nam
.
If you think Obama or McCain are looking out for anyone but themselves and their inner circle, you are completely delusional. Bush and Congress have atrocious approval ratings, and these two clowns that are running for POTUS aren't any better. The Republicans are too busy screwing up in Iraq, and the Democrats are too busy whining like a bunch of little girls...all talk, no action. We need more than a two MAJOR party system in this country. Both sides have showed glaring examples on how ineffective they are and it's time for a change.

I would be ashamed and embarrassed to be supporting either of these two dolts. Johnny Boy and Barack The Socialist Obama both need to take a look at how Libertarians run things and use that as the platform.

And Rome continues to burn, while Obama and McCain try out for the part or Nero...
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Old 07-25-2008, 07:10 AM
 
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If you think Obama or McCain are looking out for anyone but themselves and their inner circle, you are completely delusional. Bush and Congress have atrocious approval ratings, and these two clowns that are running for POTUS aren't any better. The Republicans are too busy screwing up in Iraq, and the Democrats are too busy whining like a bunch of little girls...all talk, no action.

We need more than a two party system in this country. Both sides have showed glaring examples on how ineffective they are and it's time for a change.

I would be ashamed and embarrassed to be supporting either of these two dolts. Johnny Boy and Barack The Socialist Obama both need to take a look at how Libertarians run things and use that as the platform.

"libertarians" are rePIGlicans in sheep's clothing.
other 3rd party options, I'd have zero issue with
give me Obama over this scumbag mcCANT anyday. Call Obama a socialist all you want... God forbid, everyone might have health care in this country. OOOOOHHHHHH the horror!
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