Minorities will be the majority by 2042 (Long Branch: move, estate, racism)

[JMadison]

Originally Posted by JERSEY MAN

So if 95 percent of black america votes for Obama thats OK. If 95 percent of white america voted for McCain would that be OK, or would it be racist? I think this is a very valid question. White america is certainly given a black american(as you say) a chance to becoming the US president.

Welcome to racism circa 2008.

The trend in racism today is anti-white.

Do you really believe their agenda is "equality"? Or is it to take over? Payback, after all, right?

Do this thought experiment. What do you think would happen if a "White Caucus" were formed in Congress. So why is there "Black" and "Hispanic" caucus tolerated?

Do this as a real experiment. Google on "Black MBA Association" or "Blacks in Engineering" etc. See how many of these organizations there are. Now try to construct the same organization populated with whites and put "White" in the title... what do you think the result would be.

I think I can rest my case there, don't you?

[JERSEY MAN]

Originally Posted by JMadison

Welcome to racism circa 2008.

The trend in racism today is anti-white.

I read most of your posts and I agree with most of them. For the record are you white, black or just a plain good ole american

[Lucario]

Originally Posted by JMadison

So why is it OK to force africanization on people who don't want it by policy and law?

No I'm not trolling. I'm attempting to create some understanding in the types of liberals who would legislate thier "liberalness" on everyone, whether they want it or not. As I believe I stated, I'd be willing to provide some insight into the opposing view.

Personally I feel groups like Stormfront are ridiculous too. They seem to want to recreate the Third Reich. Can't understand why anyone would want to do that.


However I do agree with the idea of "the right to not associate" along the same theory as "at will employment"... "for any reason or no reason".

Beyond that, institutionalized reverse discrimination is no more valid that discrimination. The goal should be equal in the eyes of the law, no more, no less.

I'm not for any group that would force it's agenda on anyone actually. Granted it's seems a practical impossibility to build a world where everyone is in nothing but freely chosen peer-to-peer relationships, and everyone can have thier own island.

As for why sub-saharan features would appear dangerous. I can't say what the underlying basis is, but I know it occurs. No idea what the biological basis of that reaction would be. My best guess is that it has to do with the built in expressions people have and how people perceive them. For example it's generally percieved that smaller chins and noses are feminine traits and the reverse. On average sub saharans seem to have more pronounced jaw lines. I believe that may be a testoterone marker, and thus may be percieved as more agressive. However, not being a psychologist, that's just a guess.

In the end "discrimination" is really "discernment" to an extreme degree. Everytime someone decides to not sleep with someone because they are too fat, too skinny, have/have not a certain eye color, etc... a discriminatory action has occured. It's just human nature to try and decide what is good or bad for us, and sometimes it *is* based on appearances. After all something like 85-90% of information is taken in visually. So every time someone says "Well he/she isn't my *type*" they generally mean physically, LOL! Since I'm not leading man material, I suspect that has happened many times to me, knowingly and unknowingly, LOL! And being older and somewhat greying, but in a career field with a young bias, I'm quite sure my looks have worked against me at times. In fact, most contracts I've gotten have been won where no face to face interview was required. On a percentage basis, I've gotten fewer of the face to face cases. I suspect because I look like a conservative oldster. Especially in an industry populated largely with poorly dressing younger folks, LOL!

Next on the list would be financial discrimination. I know for a fact, as a working class person, when I lived in the Palm Beaches, that was definitely a social strike against me in places where the wealthy congregated. Didn't feel good. But in retrospect, to be totally expected.

So it's all nothing new, and seems to me the right to choose shouldn't be limited, whether it's for or against.

As for detrimental to society, well, there's plenty of data out there to substantiate there are all kinds of detrimental elements out there. I'd say that maybe one of the oldest sayings of all might well apply here. "Good fences make good neighbors". For example, do you ever really expect the mid-east to cool off? And those are people that by some accounts are of the *same* race and genetics.

And isn't it true that most people believe the situation over there could best be solved by having separate homelands for the Israelites and Palistineans?

Now, let's address this:

"And I hope, indeed, that they continue to flee, that white flight (or any other type of flight) continues until the haters find themselves forced to live subterranean, oceanic, or extraterrestrial existences. Good bleeping riddance. And if you are one of these people, Madison, the same goes for you."

So it's OK for you to force your agenda on me until I'm out in extra-terrestrial-land. So where is the protection of *my* rights in this? This is classical liberal thinking. It's OK to force your agenda on others, while demanding respect for your own... claiming to be tolerant... but it would appear tolerant of only those who believe exactly as you do. So much for your "tolerance" of opinions diverse from your own.

Reminds me of California. So liberal it's the most regulated state in the union.

Oh yeah, the trolls come out at night. Glad you revealed yourself for what you really are rather than a simple "observer." So living on the same earth as everyone else equals "Africanization?" Hate to tell you this, brother, but all humanity, which presumably includes even you, are descended from Africans. I have no agenda other than to live a peaceful, safe life. If you don't share that agenda, I am both unapologetic and sorry for you. I mean, you can associate or not associate with anyone you please; I feel your "rights" should be protected. I was simply pointing out that if you really want to do that, if myself, my family and and other race mongrels (mixtures of sub-Saharan and other parts of the planet) scare you so much, you may just have to find another planet.

Happy hunting.

[Lucario]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I hope this comes out right.To run as a Black man that means he is disowning his white blood and relatives,his black side is more important then his white.I don't care what he looks like ....yeah he might look black ,so what he's not.Kinda like someone from Africa who hears another person being called "African American" when they are not from Africa, they get upset.Like it or not the man is as white as he is black and he needs to remind people of that.

African Americans are people descended from African slaves who have formed a distinct culture rooted in that experience in the American South. The word also identifies those from Africa or the Diaspora who identify with this culture. Genetically they can be as white as they are black, or even more white than black.

Barack Obama, our next President, is an African American.

[Lucario]

Originally Posted by K90

Minorities the majority by 2042? Complete and utter bull. A few years ago, the statistics said 2050. I can bet within a few years from now it will be 2035 if not sooner, but in reality, we all know it will be before that. It's a shame, but it is and was unavoidable.

Get over it.

[Lucario]

Originally Posted by JMadison

Welcome to racism circa 2008.

The trend in racism today is anti-white.

Do you really believe their agenda is "equality"? Or is it to take over? Payback, after all, right?

Do this thought experiment. What do you think would happen if a "White Caucus" were formed in Congress. So why is there "Black" and "Hispanic" caucus tolerated?

Do this as a real experiment. Google on "Black MBA Association" or "Blacks in Engineering" etc. See how many of these organizations there are. Now try to construct the same organization populated with whites and put "White" in the title... what do you think the result would be.

I think I can rest my case there, don't you?

Son...........you have no case.

[mike0421]

Originally Posted by Sunil's Dad

African Americans are people descended from African slaves who have formed a distinct culture rooted in that experience in the American South. The word also identifies those from Africa or the Diaspora who identify with this culture. Genetically they can be as white as they are black, or even more white than black.

Barack Obama, our next President, is an African American.

I think hyphenated societies spell the eventual doom of our nation. Politicians will continue to pit groups of people against one another, and laugh all the way to the bank.

"Any man who carries a hyphen about with him carries a dagger that he is ready to plunge into the vitals of this Republic whenever he gets ready."-Woodrow Wilson

[solibs]

Originally Posted by JMadison

And well, diamonds and gold, BMW 3 series and Mercedes C class, etc. as well. Essentially anything from South Africa. I believe Toyota is planning to make Corollas in S. Africa this year or next as well. Even though thier execs have stated they don't think they could sell the S. A. BMW's in Japan. That no one would knowingly buy them. (At least that's what they said back in 2004 when BMW announced S.A. production.)

The AGOA is causing more and more of that stuff to be imported, so it's hard to avoid. Hard to even know if it's being slipped in. Especially since some of the companies, such as Nestle's aren't even U.S. corps.

I don't understand. What's wrong with South Africa? Are you boycotting slavery or are you boycotting Africans?

You have some strange preoccupations. I'm gonna venture a guess and say that there aren't a whole lot of non-white folk where you come from . . ?

[Lucario]

Originally Posted by mike0421

I think hyphenated societies spell the eventual doom of our nation. Politicians will continue to pit groups of people against one another, and laugh all the way to the bank.

"Any man who carries a hyphen about with him carries a dagger that he is ready to plunge into the vitals of this Republic whenever he gets ready."-Woodrow Wilson

Black people were held separate from everyone else from the beginning, and now we're the ones who are hurting the country? Hilarious.........Last I heard Woodrow Wilson was a spineless racist who didn't care much for black people and wanted to keep them Jim Crowed throughout eternity........

[Lucario]

Originally Posted by solibs

I don't understand. What's wrong with South Africa? Are you boycotting slavery or are you boycotting Africans?

You have some strange preoccupations. I'm gonna venture a guess and say that there aren't a whole lot of non-white folk where you come from . . ?

Both. He's not just a racist, he's confused.