Minorities will be the majority by 2042 (Perth Amboy, Bridgeton: renting, buying, school districts)

[mike0421]

Originally Posted by Sunil's Dad

Sports are a meritocracy. If you can play, you play. The better you are, the more you play. The more you play, the more money you make. The team that scores the most points wins. And EVERYONE gets a chance to show what they can do. Those who are not youth league stars don't make it to high school. Those who are not stars in high school don't make it to Division I. And those who are not Division I stars don't usually make it to the pros. That's called meritocracy, and that's the only pure example of this we have in society.

In the real world, where there are critical decisions to be made, not everyone gets an equal chance to show what they can do. This is why we have mechanisms in place to try to assure at least a shot at equal opportunity. How can you, or anyone, for that matter, determine who is the brightest and the best?

That's why I could never vote for a conservative Republican. They only give a damn about the powerful. Think? What's that?

How can I determine who is the brightest and best? Academic achievement, for starters. We can subjectively argue over who was the best point guard, for instance (Oscar vs Magic). However, from a standpoint of academic achievement, test scores and classroom performance are the final arbiters of (who should anyway) become admitted to an academic department, such as University of Michigan pre-law. Passing or failing a bar exam doesn't discriminate. You are either in or out, based on the score. This is true meritocracy as well. Testing is performed, and from those tests, those who perform the best are admitted to institutions of higher learning. That triggers another process: academic achievement in college, which one would think, would mirror athletic achievement. Example A: Derrick Rose gets admitted on a basketball scholarship to the University of Memphis, has a great NCAA tournament, and gets selected first by the Chicago Bulls, presumably because he busted his ass off in the gym, and has God-given talent. Conversely, Jennifer Gratz gets a 3.8 GPA and graduates 12th in her high school class, and the University of Michigan slams the door in her face.

[Lucario]

Originally Posted by MPBsr

You are truly blind. That quote is from the USA article and not Reagan. You read what you want to read.

Since you've been here for 40 years plus, then you should remember that a higher % of Republicans voted for passing the Act than against it.

Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Willie Horton was a convicted criminal. Of course there are fears when someone kills another human being. But leave it up to the Dems to get him out of jail.

Willie Horton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Open your eyes and put down the kool-aid.

The quote I was referring to, sir, "there you go again," was from one of Ronald Reagan's debates with Jimmy Carter in 1980. I was figuring that since you might have been one of the millions of Gipper worshipers, you would immediately understand my reference and at least acknowledge my worthiness as an intellectual adversary. Alas, you didn't get the reference. I am disappointed in you, and, indeed, in myself. I figured from your posts that you had a depth of knowledge of American political history from which you drew when you posted your incisive comments. But I was wrong. Silly me. I will never make such a mistake again. And I am hardly impressed with the figures you cited about the Civil Rights Act........the damn thing should have been passed unanimously. Hard to be ambiguous about extending basic human rights to all Americans.

And you know damn well what I mean about Willie Horton. Oh, maybe you don't........

[MPBsr]

Yep, tell that to Allan Bakke.

[Lucario]

Originally Posted by mike0421

How can I determine who is the brightest and best? Academic achievement, for starters. We can subjectively argue over who was the best point guard, for instance (Oscar vs Magic). However, from a standpoint of academic achievement, test scores and classroom performance are the final arbiters of (who should anyway) become admitted to an academic department, such as University of Michigan pre-law. Passing or failing a bar exam doesn't discriminate. You are either in or out, based on the score. This is true meritocracy as well. Testing is performed, and from those tests, those who perform the best are admitted to institutions of higher learning. That triggers another process: academic achievement in college, which one would think, would mirror athletic achievement. Example A: Derrick Rose gets admitted on a basketball scholarship to the University of Memphis, has a great NCAA tournament, and gets selected first by the Chicago Bulls, presumably because he busted his ass off in the gym, and has God-given talent. Conversely, Jennifer Gratz gets a 3.8 GPA and graduates 12th in her high school class, and the University of Michigan slams the door in her face.

Test scores don't mean a thing, because there is great disparity in the quality of our elementary and high schools, which would also lead to classroom performance being an inexact predictor or, indeed, a flawed measure, of ability to perform at higher levels of education. I will agree with you on the bar exam; holders of the juris doctorate, no matter where from, should be able to pass it.

There are thousands of highly qualified people who do not get into the University of Michigan, or even Harvard for that matter. Just because Jennifer Gratz had the numbers she had does not mean that Jennifer Gratz was the highest qualified on all criteria for admission to Ann Arbor.

[MPBsr]

Originally Posted by Sunil's Dad

The quote I was referring to, sir, was from one of Ronald Reagan's debates with Jimmy Carter in 1980. I was figuring that since you might have been one of the millions of Gipper worshipers, you would immediately understand my reference and at least acknowledge my worthiness as an intellectual adversary. Alas, you didn't get the reference. I am disappointed in you, and, indeed, in myself. I figured from your posts that you had a depth of knowledge of American political history from which you drew when you posted your incisive comments. But I was wrong. Silly me. I will never make such a mistake again. And I am hardly impressed with the figures you cited about the Civil Rights Act........the damn thing should have been passed unanimously. Hard to be ambiguous about extending basic human rights to all Americans.

And you know damn well what I mean about Willie Horton. Oh, maybe you don't........

What are you talking about?

My saying there you go again was never meant as any type of quote as noted by no quotation marks.

The mistake that you're making is obvious. You're blinded by your hatred and see what you want to see.

[Lucario]

Originally Posted by MPBsr

Yep, tell that to Allan Bakke.

He seems to be doing fine..........

[MPBsr]

Originally Posted by Sunil's Dad

He seems to be doing fine..........

and that justifies what happened in 1974?

I guess to you it does.

[Lucario]

Originally Posted by MPBsr

What are you talking about?

My saying there you go again was never meant as any type of quote as noted by no quotation marks.

The mistake that you're making is obvious. You're blinded by your hatred and see what you want to see.

Son............I think you should look in the mirror when talking about hatred. I was attempting to have some fun with you................

*goes over his head*

[Lucario]

Originally Posted by MPBsr

and that justifies what happened in 1974?

I guess to you it does.

Let's say my heart does not bleed for him. Allan Bakke got rejected by 11 other med schools just because he was white? He eventually got in, he became a doctor. How about those thousands of others who weren't allowed into hundreds of American medical schools for hundreds of years because they were "inferior" people???????????

[MPBsr]

Originally Posted by Sunil's Dad

Son............I think you should look in the mirror when talking about hatred. I was attempting to have some fun with you................

*goes over his head*

First of all, I always use proper names when talking about people. Unlike you.

Second, go back and read you posts. There was no way you were yanking my chain.

Third, I'm prob older than you.