So How bad is Newark Really? (Hoboken: house, rent, work)

[cyntmac]

.....LoL.....

[DAT]

Originally Posted by Jerseyt719

To the Indian student, student2nj, DON'T DO IT!! Go to CT or NY, you'll be much safer. You may get a better education here, but you are taking your chances on whether or not you'll be around to finish it up.

The same plea you are making was given to an honor student from Ethiopia a few years ago. What he did was transfer his scholarship to an engineering school in the mid west. The area of course was to him safer than the "hard streets of Newark". Maybe he was right.

Only problem is he is dead today.

Stabbed repeatedly then shot not even a year after he got there.

The reason BLACK.

He was scared to live around his own people in Newark NJ listening to people talk your talk and died a horrible death from those he thought would protect him.

The retarded skin head (**** Head) killed him to collect his skin as a trophy.

Bizzar....

So what you consider safe "ain't" safe for everybody.

America has always been and will always be a bad and unsafe neigborhood for blacks and other people of color.

For blacks and other people of color we are subject to the dangers and terrors of racism that can creep up at any time.

[Tank1906]

Originally Posted by Jerseyt719

To the Indian student, student2nj, DON'T DO IT!! Go to CT or NY, you'll be much safer. You may get a better education here, but you are taking your chances on whether or not you'll be around to finish it up.

Just curious but when was the last time an NJIT student or any of the other students at the Newark Campuses were murdered. I've only lived in Newark for 3 months but have seen it to be just like any other city. I see students from Seton Hall Law to NJIT commuting everyday without problem. I'm curious as to what scares people so much.

Maybe the boogie man lives in Newark.

[johsel]

Newark great place if your plans are participating in gang activity. Yes, there is redeveloping going on ..but you dont address the crime it all in vain. And trust me ...they are waiting for folks like yourself to wander in there stomping grounds.

[daggert]

Unfortunately most things that you hear about Newark are from those who haven't spent much time in the City, don't live or work in the City or haven't been there recently. I would never deny that Newark has some less than desireable locations. Most individuals that end up being homicide victims over the year had extensive criminal records and were involved in drugs, dealing or using. Most everything that happens that is bad is where drugs are being sold. Out of towners that become violent crime victims are almost always buying drugs or involved in solicting prostitutes or engaged in some type of other criminal act. Not much of anything ususally happens downtown or in the areas of the colleges. Most of the Italians continue to live in North Newark near the Bloomfield, Belleville area. Drive up bloomfield avenue and it is obvious that there continues to be a strong presence.

[cyntmac]

There are many other violent crimes that do not end in homicide and they frequently go unreported. You can avoid much of this by just staying in certain small areas. Not everyone is thrilled to do that though. There is definitely stranger crime in Newark.

[Tank1906]

Originally Posted by cyntmac

There are many other violent crimes that do not end in homicide and they frequently go unreported. You can avoid much of this by just staying in certain small areas. Not everyone is thrilled to do that though. There is definitely stranger crime in Newark.

Last time I checked, there's stranger crime everywhere. Why not villify NYC, Jersery City or hoboken? As far as staying in a small area, that's a personal choice. Would you go anywhere in NYC? venture outside of Journal Square in Jersey City? If you want to live scared go ahead. People make these sensational statements as if they've been a victim but they haven't. I could come up with scary incidents from any and everywhere and scare people. The area around Rutgers is as safe as the area around Galludet and American in D.C. and they aren't shying away from attending school there.

I guess our culture is simply driven by fear. (Weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION!!)

I would tell the student to go where you feel you'll receive the best education. Maybe you'll also get street cred

[cyntmac]

Originally Posted by Tank1906

Last time I checked, there's stranger crime everywhere. Why not villify NYC, Jersery City or hoboken? As far as staying in a small area, that's a personal choice. Would you go anywhere in NYC? venture outside of Journal Square in Jersey City? If you want to live scared go ahead. People make these sensational statements as if they've been a victim but they haven't. I could come up with scary incidents from any and everywhere and scare people. The area around Rutgers is as safe as the area around Galludet and American in D.C. and they aren't shying away from attending school there.

Not really a fear driven issue. At least not for everyone. I am telling it like it is. Newark is no Jersey City. A college student in Jersey City(there is more than one college there) would have much less issue with freedom of movement than in Newark. I am telling the truth. The area around Rutgers is o.k. but many of the surrounding areas are not. In JC this is much less true-even 20 years ago.

If you are only there to go to school and have no issue with the general surroundings than go for it is what I would say. If you are the type of person who wants to be out and about and need an off campus hang neighborhood you might want to consider somewhere else.

For someone to even bother starting a thread like this I would think they have expectations that could not likely be satiated in Newark. I could be wrong but I doubt it very seriously. If you truly care about the academics soley you would not be in such conflict to begin with.

[66nexus]

Originally Posted by daggert

Not much of anything ususally happens downtown or in the areas of the colleges.

Agreed. The problem is that most NJ folk dismiss any and all things associated with Newark. Sure, things can happen downtown, Ironbound, and Univ. Heights, but those areas, when lined up with the truly bad areas of Newark almost don't compare.

I'm not as familiar with JC's areas, but I do know that JC and Newark have comparable crime rates. However, Newark homicide takes the title

[cyntmac]

This poster asked about Newark. Newark is not "just like JC" in many ways. That doesn't mean everyone should write it off but the person clearly had issues with going there (even just for school) so it might not be the right choice for him. I have walked all over JC. Trust me- I would never do that in Newark- even in daylight hours. Weapons of Mass Destruction have nothing to do with it. The decent areas I have been in but I had no desire to live there. Call it writing off or whatever you wish. It's not something I would judge someone on. That makes no sense.