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Old 08-27-2008, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Stewartsville, NJ
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We're going wild with ourselves and doing concrete anyway.
The concrete stamping is pretty cool! Have you checked that out? I did pavers..lotsa em! Over 1000 sf ourselves!! I just now have fingerprints again . It was hard work but it looks great! Did the area around the pool.. even did the bullnose myself which I am very proud of . A friend just had the stamping done around her pool..looks nice but it's already cracking . She had them tint it with a nice reddish brown slate looking color... nice touch.
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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Ugh, stamped concrete. Looks so fake and non-authentic. Plus...it CRACKS!
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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I was told that PAVERS aren't considered permanent and won't increase your taxes but that concrete is permanent and will increase them. Of course, it was the paver guy that told me that, so I'd double check.
It woulkd depend on how the pavers are installed. If you set them in sand, or some other permeable substance, they would not be considered impervious, and perhaps not permanent either. Most installers of pavers, however, will tell you that if you want them to continue looking good, and to require less maintenance, you will want to use a layer of concrete in which to set them.
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Central, NJ
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The pavers do look beautiful - maybe too nice. I don't want the house to be overshadowed. lol. I guess all tastes are different but I actually like the stamped concrete better for what we're doing. It does come with a 1 year guarantee so they'll repair any cracks during that time. He said if it's going to crack it usually does it during the 1st year. But I take everything salesmen say with a grain of salt! We're waiting for an estimate from the people who came last night. We're also getting a second fence estimate. It's a nightmare having to deal with people. We usually do a lot ourselves but I just don't want to do this. If the whole area was flat, maybe. But there's a grade and for once I'd like to just be able to hire someone and have them show up and do what they said they'd do. I'm sure I'm dreaming, though. With the mosquito situation I feel like we're really just building the patio for them anyway. And, darn it, they're not getting pavers!!!
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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Concrete will crack from shrinkage within the first year, but it will crack eventually due to the freeze-thaw cycle, and the heaving of the slab. I would never, ever, put stamped concrete at my house. Looks fake/cheap, and guaranteed to crack...often within only a few years. You may want to re-think...just my friendly advice.
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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By the way, Irish Eyes, the only way to truly "repair" cracks in concrete is to remove and replace the entire patio or a large portion of it. I doubt this company will do that (they wouldn't be in business), so be wary of this offer.
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Old 08-27-2008, 04:25 PM
 
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Approval from your local construction dept. and zoning officer. And yes, your taxes will go up but not much..couple hundred . Actually, mine went up by about $500/yr. but that included the pool. They went back down again this year by about the same
Willeynj,

Why did they go down? I thought property tax never go down.
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Old 08-27-2008, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Cranford NJ
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I have a feeling it's more of a "setback" issue - not coverage issue.

Actually, I think it was percentage of lot coverage, as opposed to rear setbacks. No metion of impervious ratios.
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Old 08-27-2008, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Cranford NJ
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That strikes me as odd. The issue with covering a percentage of the property is usually a water permeability issue. They want to make sure that water can get into the ground & drain properly. So they set limits on "impervious coverage". A deck, because it is usually raised off the ground, and allows water to flow through & under it, does not USUALLY fall into the impervious coverage category. A patio, which is usually situated on or even IN the ground, with a layer of weed blocking black plastic, and often set with a layer of concrete, is much more often impervious coverage. How is it that yuor friend was not allowed a deck, but is being allowed a patio?

A small deck is nice ( 12 x 18 ) these guys want big, no need for a deck that big (22 x 40) even their patio, I think, is too big.
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Stewartsville, NJ
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Willeynj,

Why did they go down? I thought property tax never go down.
Not sure but I'm sure as hell not going to call and ask why . All my neighbors went down as well. My theory... they started to build a million dollar playground but the people in my twp. complained so they shut down the project. Maybe they were collecting monies for this project and no longer need it? We really don't need a playground out here for the kids... the school has a huge one already and most of the lots out here are over 2 acres..plenty of room in our own yards for kids to play in. We are only 2000 strong - very small community. The playground would have been a waste of money.
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