Jersey City,Elizabeth,Paterson,Linden,Irvington, and Union City. Are they really as bad as people say? (Newark: income, live in)

[E-TOWN-R.I.P.]

Originally Posted by jstar41

funny how people say that crimes that happen in Elizabeth leaks over to Linden.. read the news and you'll see that most crimes that happen in Elizabeth are by residents of nearby towns.. like Linden, Rahway, Hillside, Union, Newark, etc.. Elizabeth might not be paradise but it's not as dangerous as other CITIES.. I also see others say that if you are civilized then Elizabeth is bad.. how do you define civilize? there are tons of educated people and professionals in Elizabeth.. so why generalize? there are wealthy ignorant people in the best towns..

also, not all illegal immigrants are from Central America.. you have illegal Portuguese, Brazilians, Chinese, Indians, Uruguayan, etc.. I guess what you are referring to central America, you mean Hispanics.. BTW NOT all Hispanics are from Central America, or are ILLEGAL.. and because there is a large % of Hispanics it does not mean it's bad..

The Hispanic culture have one of the strongest cultural upraisings and morals.. you see this if you travel to any Latin American country.. you'll notice immediately that financial wealth in Latin countries don't mean much but Education and morals are..

"Civilized" may be a bit harsh. I think I was heated from another conversation. Elmora, Elmora Hills and Westminster are nice, the rest is definitely "urban city." Being part Hispanic, I am aware that not all Hispanics are from Central America, or are poor, or are illegal. However, in the interest of full disclosure, there are quite a few illegal aliens from Central America residing in Elizabeth. I know people in law enforcement and corrections who have stated the same. I don't think I'm breaking any news here. That being said, I'm not trying to intimate that they're all bad people or that living amongst a certain sect of people is bad. But it is different, and it is city, and people thinking of moving there need to keep that in mind.

[jstar41]

Originally Posted by E-TOWN-R.I.P.

"Civilized" may be a bit harsh. I think I was heated from another conversation. Elmora, Elmora Hills and Westminster are nice, the rest is definitely "urban city." Being part Hispanic, I am aware that not all Hispanics are from Central America, or are poor, or are illegal. However, in the interest of full disclosure, there are quite a few illegal aliens from Central America residing in Elizabeth. I know people in law enforcement and corrections who have stated the same. I don't think I'm breaking any news here. That being said, I'm not trying to intimate that they're all bad people or that living amongst a certain sect of people is bad. But it is different, and it is city, and people thinking of moving there need to keep that in mind.

how do you define different? different than living amongst whites, blacks?? muts.. lol.. dude all of the US is full of a mixture of races = diversity.. you might want to say that hispanics are the majority in ELizabeth.. but many of those hispanics are mixed-race and same goes with the rest of the country.

It's a blue-collar town.. i think that's more acceptable but there are lots of white collar too...

[todd72173]

Originally Posted by cf77

It was basically once an abondoned railyard/factory type place. Once Manhatten became way to over priced along with other outter boros Jersey City began popping up "luxury" condos given its proximity to NYC. Tommyc tends to get really excited over Downtown Jersey City , why? we have yet to figure that one out. Dont get me wrong its a great place to rent an apartment if you need an easy commute into NYC but other than that theres really nothing going on in the area (pretty quite at night). As for the "Drastic" changes over the past few years, well mainly they just built more condos and maybe opended a coffee shop or two to caiter to the yuppies buying the condos. So basically Downtown Jersey City is a commuters dream place but most of the people go into NYC or if your a college type person Hoboken for their fun. Oh and alot of the buildings on the water front are financial buildings that came over here from NYC, since most of the workers leave tehre around 5 or 6 it is probebly the reason why the area is kinda dull at night. Personally I like the otehr areas of JC, aside from the crime they have a much more "real city" type feel

Well said. Agree 100%. Downtown JC is for commute only to NYC. Nothing else is special about it.

[E-TOWN-R.I.P.]

Originally Posted by jstar41

how do you define different? different than living amongst whites, blacks?? muts.. lol.. dude all of the US is full of a mixture of races = diversity.. you might want to say that hispanics are the majority in ELizabeth.. but many of those hispanics are mixed-race and same goes with the rest of the country.

It's a blue-collar town.. i think that's more acceptable but there are lots of white collar too...

Yes, I mean diverse. Because it is primarily Hispanic, you may have whites or blacks who are not comfortable living in a place where they are the minority. Now I'm not saying that I'm one of those people. I'd like to think that I could live happily amongst any type of race or ethnicity, even if I am the minority. But not everybody feels that way. In fact, I would even go as far as to say that most people don't feel that way.

For example, there's people who won't give Perth Amboy a second thought because it's primarily Hispanic, and the waterfront section there has million dollar homes. There's people who won't consider nice sections of Colonia and Iselin because it's predominantly Indian. Those feelings do exist amongst potential home buyers ... and some may feel that way about Elizabeth because of the predominantly Hispanic population. That's all I'm trying to say.

[Newarkbomb]

I always saw this thread but never responded because i thought that obviously the thread was answered!

But i guess i'll answer it now,
It depends on the kind of person you are.

[Jose Fernandez]

Originally Posted by E-TOWN-R.I.P.

Yes, I mean diverse. Because it is primarily Hispanic, you may have whites or blacks who are not comfortable living in a place where they are the minority. Now I'm not saying that I'm one of those people. I'd like to think that I could live happily amongst any type of race or ethnicity, even if I am the minority. But not everybody feels that way. In fact, I would even go as far as to say that most people don't feel that way.

For example, there's people who won't give Perth Amboy a second thought because it's primarily Hispanic, and the waterfront section there has million dollar homes. There's people who won't consider nice sections of Colonia and Iselin because it's predominantly Indian. Those feelings do exist amongst potential home buyers ... and some may feel that way about Elizabeth because of the predominantly Hispanic population. That's all I'm trying to say.

That's a good point!

[Jose Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Jose Fernandez

Damn that's deep! Me being from West New York which borders Union City and being Cuban might take offense. Fact is, these two communities aren't any worse than any urban sector in the country. In fact, despite all the Cubans nestled here, it is probably one of the safest urban areas you'll find in the US, unless you talk down to the Cubans. Then you'll have to answer to Tony and Manolo. We bury the cocoroaches!!!

Originally Posted by DR3AMGIIRL

Comin from someone whos from irvington...im 23 yrs old i've been living here since i was 11...irvington and surrounding cities in essex county are overall rough neighborhoods to live in but like any city whr theres a high rate in crime, theres a high rate in poverty, drugs, welfare, bad school districs, unemployment, and the projects..this things all play a factor on hw ppl act and think...although there are bad ppl where i live there are also good...when you drive into irvington or newark it dont look like bahgdag lol..its simply poverty..its also makes it difficult when crooked rich politicians invest in upscale homes and apartments in these areas that they kno the average person cant afford, with that said it causes a divide, ppl are angry, children r hungry, the ignorant are violent, many ppl who live here who cant find a way out for example when i was in middle school i knew plenty of guys who starting hustling just to support their household whr they had several siblings. They were too young to get real work, their parents and family members were drug addicts or in jail and they had younger siblings (wht options does a 12 or 13 yr old have...foster care?), ppl indeed can become products of their environments but if u want better u'll get better...im an example of that i just graduating from a 4 yr accredited college with my ba, i always did well in school, im from the hood but i know theres too many opportunities in this world for me to not go out and get it...many of my friends went to school, i wasnt a dork i was always popular...so irvington and essex county is not a total failure in society many ppl r tryna do betta and many are content with the bs but where im from roses def grow thru concrete and only the strong survive.

Word dreamgirl. you're an inspiration to all that aren't raised with a golden spoon! Pain, hurt, desire, and most of all, determination. Do yo thang!!

[Gonutz nj]

did mad research, spent weeks, this is the list, if you think im wrong or missed somthing let me know


5 - Very Dangerous Area Overall, High Poverty, Very High Violent/Property Crime, Very High Drug Sales, High to Very High Murder Rate

Irvington
Camden
Newark
East Orange
Atlantic City
Trenton
Jersey City

4 - Dangerous Area Overall, Mild Poverty, High Violent/Property Crime, Very High Drug Sales, High Murder Rate

Asbury Park
Paterson
Orange
Bridgeton

3 - Dangerous Area, Very Dangerous Sections Of the Neighborhood. Mild to High Violent/Property Crime, High Drug Sales, Mild to High Murder Rate

Elizabeth
Plainfield
Passaic
Vineland
Millville
New Brunswick
Pleasantville
Salem
Union City
Lindenwold
Perth Amboy

2 - Potentially Dangerous, Dangerous sections of the neighborhood, Mild Violent/Property Crime, Mild to High Drug Sales, Small to Mild Murder Rate

Paulsboro
Pennsgrove
Lakewood
Hillside
Linden
Union
Roselle
Neptune Township
Morristown
Rahway

1 - Above State Average Violent/Property Crime, Mild to High Drug sales, No to Small Murder Rate, Sections of neighborhood may be dangerous.

West New York
Woodbury
North Bergen
Hoboken
Pennsauken
Glassboro
Long Branch
Bayonne
Willingboro
Hamilton
Carteret
Ewing

[jcjh20]

Originally Posted by E-TOWN-R.I.P.

From these cities, Irvington's the worst, and Linden's the best -- but that's not saying much. Camden's probably worse than all of them (though I haven't been there in some time). Perth Amboy, New Brunswick and Hoboken don't deserve to be on any "all worst" lists. They're three of the few cities in Jersey that are actually getting better.

Is New Brunswick really a decent town nowadays? Last time I was there it felt like such a shady place to be, comparable to AC or Pleasantville...

[Gonutz nj]

Originally Posted by jcjh20

Is New Brunswick really a decent town nowadays? Last time I was there it felt like such a shady place to be, comparable to AC or Pleasantville...

not comparable to ac, hahah no AC is on another level, but New Brunswick has problems, its not as bad as Elizabeth or Plainfield but then again its got familiar traits