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Old 08-29-2008, 10:45 PM
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This thread is a joke, right??!?!? All of the above of horrible..If you are choosing between these choices, might as well rob a bank, get caught, and spend the next 10 years in lock up. All the people the get released from prison end up residing in these locations..
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:28 PM
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I always hear mixed reviews on these areas. Some people say they are horrible, some say they are mixed good and bad, and some say they are not really dangerous at all. Are any of them not as bad as some people make them out to be? Out of them all (JC,Elizabeth,Paterson,Irvington,Linden,and Union City) which is the best?
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Which ones in your opinion?
In my opinion, Irvington is by far the worst. Simply stated, the city is a war zone, especially the eastern edge. It appears to me that as Newark struggles to clean up its act, its worst riffraff have relocated to Irvington. It's ungovernable. My heart goes out to the city's law-abiding citizens who are, for one reason or another, incapable of getting themselves and their kids out of there.

Elizabeth, Paterson, and Jersey City all have neighborhoods you'd be wise to avoid, but likewise, they also have neighborhoods that are very nice. Sometimes, those neighborhoods change quite quickly. (For example, I avoid North 5th Street in Paterson yet just four blocks away, North 9th Street is quite nice.)

Though Linden and Union City are far from crime-free, they really don't compare with the others on your list.

That's my opinion. Others may feel free to disagree.
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All of New Jersey's major cities are textbook examples of "urban failure" at its finest! They are places that none of the residents of this state or any other state aspire to reside in, if they can possibly help it!
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All of New Jersey's major cities are textbook examples of "urban failure" at its finest! They are places that none of the residents of this state or any other state aspire to reside in, if they can possibly help it!
So is Ohio's or NY's or MI's or just about any other state with a population of over 5 million.
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In my opinion, Irvington is by far the worst. Simply stated, the city is a war zone, especially the eastern edge. It appears to me that as Newark struggles to clean up its act, its worst riffraff have relocated to Irvington. It's ungovernable. My heart goes out to the city's law-abiding citizens who are, for one reason or another, incapable of getting themselves and their kids out of there.

Elizabeth, Paterson, and Jersey City all have neighborhoods you'd be wise to avoid, but likewise, they also have neighborhoods that are very nice. Sometimes, those neighborhoods change quite quickly. (For example, I avoid North 5th Street in Paterson yet just four blocks away, North 9th Street is quite nice.)

Though Linden and Union City are far from crime-free, they really don't compare with the others on your list.

That's my opinion. Others may feel free to disagree.

I can't Imagine a city as bad as you and other are describing Irvington, and here I was thinking Newark was the worst city in the area. Thanks for the vivid description of each neighborhood. That is crazy for areas that different to only have a few streets in between like you said about Paterson.
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All of New Jersey's major cities are textbook examples of "urban failure" at its finest! They are places that none of the residents of this state or any other state aspire to reside in, if they can possibly help it!
I don't understand how all a states major cities are that bad, maybe it is because the city I live in now isn't the norm for major cities.
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So is Ohio's or NY's or MI's or just about any other state with a population of over 5 million.

I'll give you Cleveland and Cincinnati, but Columbus isn't bad.
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I'll give you Cleveland and Cincinnati, but Columbus isn't bad.
No way would I compare Cleveland and Cincy. It's like comparing Detroit and Nashville.

. . . and who needs the FBI uniformed crime reports (you know, actual facts) when you have prejudice and innuendo. It doesn't matter that Linden is actually safer than Montclair - we'll just pretend that it isn't because the housing type is different and a different class of people live there. And who cares that Union City is only negligibly more dangerous than Hoboken - it's full of Cubans so let's avoid it like the plague.

I really can't figure out why there are so many people on this board who are so obsessed with urban crime . . . as if they're actually considering living in one of these places. Of you listen to them you'd think that people get beaten and killed for simply being in the wrong place at the right time. People that actually live in these places know that unless you hang around with scumbags or regularly argue with them that you have a tiny chance of being the victim of violent crime. The fact is that it's generally the same idiots who are the victims of violent crime on multiple occasions and they're also the perps when it's their turn to get even.
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Which ones in your opinion?
In my opinion (somewhat limited) I would say that Irvington is worse than Newark and Paterson, Linden and Elizabeth are as bad as Newark. My wife's parents got out of Elizabeth because things were getting really bad and I have family in Linden and have heard stories about numerous break-ins not to mention the mugging of one of my wife's grandmother a block from their house.

In my mind these are not good places at all.
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Old 08-30-2008, 09:18 AM
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Linden?!?! Come on! You people are weaK!
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