opinions on 10 years old killed for a used Mercedes?? (house, move)

[RobRiguez]

Originally Posted by CuCullin

If I own a gun, and it gets stolen, and the thief shoots someone... its my fault?

Actually, if you dont report it stolen IMMMEDIATLY, you can be held partly responsible. Gotta love NJ law.

Sevemorse and Eeep, I like you guys alot but I just cannot grasp how you could possibly blame ANYONE other than the criminal. All the theif had to do was pull over and the girl would be alive. If he never took the car to begin with the girl would still be alive. If this was Texas (where you are allowed to protect your property) and the theif stole my car, the girl would still be alive. Id have a ton of blood to clean out of my car and some body work to fix the bullet holes, but the girl would still be alive.

Unfortunate things happen. Deal with it. If it were my daughter I would be upset at the loss of my daughter and want to kill the theif. I would not be mad at the cops. I am not a cop lover (very opposite) but they have a job to do.

[Alex07860]

Originally Posted by nicolem

Where is Alex when we need him?

Oh I read it before and I was tempted to reply but after a long sigh decided not to. After a while it becomes like picking on a special olympic kid, sure they're cute in their effort to be competetive but in the end, it loses the fun when they keep falling down on their faces on their way to the 100 meter dash.

[EEEPNJ]

Originally Posted by RobRiguez

Actually, if you dont report it stolen IMMMEDIATLY, you can be held partly responsible. Gotta love NJ law.

Sevemorse and Eeep, I like you guys alot but I just cannot grasp how you could possibly blame ANYONE other than the criminal. All the theif had to do was pull over and the girl would be alive. If he never took the car to begin with the girl would still be alive. If this was Texas (where you are allowed to protect your property) and the theif stole my car, the girl would still be alive. Id have a ton of blood to clean out of my car and some body work to fix the bullet holes, but the girl would still be alive.

Unfortunate things happen. Deal with it. If it were my daughter I would be upset at the loss of my daughter and want to kill the theif. I would not be mad at the cops. I am not a cop lover (very opposite) but they have a job to do.

We have to agree to disagree. I don't BLAME the cops or the car owner for the incident taking place. That was the thief's fault. But I think that police have procedures to follow. I don't think PROCEDURES to should be to pursue a criminal in a very densely populated area during rush hour when the crime is auto theft - which I'm sorry - is not some guy running around with an oozy threatening to kill people....

Morse is right. The small BC towns the police sit around waiting for something to do so a car theft is a big deal. Trust me, back in the day when I lived in JC if I called the police about this, they would have told me to come to the station and fill out a report. Once my friend HAD this happen to her (Ironbound in Newark) and she was put on hold for 30 min... so trust me... this was not priority number one where national security was at stake.

[stevemorse]

Originally Posted by RobRiguez

Actually, if you dont report it stolen IMMMEDIATLY, you can be held partly responsible. Gotta love NJ law.

Sevemorse and Eeep, I like you guys alot but I just cannot grasp how you could possibly blame ANYONE other than the criminal. All the theif had to do was pull over and the girl would be alive. If he never took the car to begin with the girl would still be alive. If this was Texas (where you are allowed to protect your property) and the theif stole my car, the girl would still be alive. Id have a ton of blood to clean out of my car and some body work to fix the bullet holes, but the girl would still be alive.

Unfortunate things happen. Deal with it. If it were my daughter I would be upset at the loss of my daughter and want to kill the theif. I would not be mad at the cops. I am not a cop lover (very opposite) but they have a job to do.

I like you too!! Its not taken personal however, you wont convince me , I feel that the cops were wrong too! Ohh and I do blame the cops!!!

[CuCullin]

Originally Posted by RobRiguez

Actually, if you dont report it stolen IMMMEDIATLY, you can be held partly responsible. Gotta love NJ law.

True, but if you go by the context of the story, he did report it immediately

[Badfish740]

Originally Posted by stevemorse

I like you too!! Its not taken personal however, you wont convince me , I feel that the cops were wrong too! Ohh and I do blame the cops!!!

I think you just take ridiculous positions on things just to see what kind of a reaction you can get out of people. Now others did jump on the bandwagon and see the situation as this:

Rich old white guy gets expensive car stolen

Rich old white guy gives chase in other expensive car he owns

Oppressive white police officers give chase to protect property of rich old white guy

Tragedy occurs

Bulls---.

This is a tragic chain of events that was put into motion by someone stealing a car, end of story. Those who blame the police for "valuing property over life" are overlooking some very important details and not asking very important questions:

Why did the thief steal the car?

Where was he going?

What did he intend to do once he got there?

Was he armed?

For all the police knew he could have been stealing that car to use it in another crime-it happens all the time. Would it have been any less tragic if he had stolen the car, drove it to rob a bank the next day, killed a bank teller in the process, and then gotten away?

[EEEPNJ]

Originally Posted by Badfish740

I think you just take ridiculous positions on things just to see what kind of a reaction you can get out of people. Now others did jump on the bandwagon and see the situation as this:

Rich old white guy gets expensive car stolen Nope - t was a TEN YEAR OLD car and who knows if he was rich?

Rich old white guy gives chase in other expensive car he owns Again, don't know if he is old or rich, or white for that matter.....Making a lot of assumptions here...

Oppressive white police officers give chase to protect property of rich old white guy At what point does it state the racial or ethic background of the responding officers?

Tragedy occurs

Bulls---.

This is a tragic chain of events that was put into motion by someone stealing a car, end of story. Those who blame the police for "valuing property over life" are overlooking some very important details and not asking very important questions:

Why did the thief steal the car?

Where was he going?

What did he intend to do once he got there?

Was he armed?

The keys were left in the car, no evidence of weapons... this is silly.

For all the police knew he could have been stealing that car to use it in another crime-it happens all the time. Would it have been any less tragic if he had stolen the car, drove it to rob a bank the next day, killed a bank teller in the process, and then gotten away?

Well, glad it turned out as it did...

[stevemorse]

Originally Posted by Badfish740

I think you just take ridiculous positions on things just to see what kind of a reaction you can get out of people. Now others did jump on the bandwagon and see the situation as this:

Rich old white guy gets expensive car stolen

Rich old white guy gives chase in other expensive car he owns

Oppressive white police officers give chase to protect property of rich old white guy

Tragedy occurs

Bulls---.

This is a tragic chain of events that was put into motion by someone stealing a car, end of story. Those who blame the police for "valuing property over life" are overlooking some very important details and not asking very important questions:

Why did the thief steal the car?

Where was he going?

What did he intend to do once he got there?

Was he armed?

For all the police knew he could have been stealing that car to use it in another crime-it happens all the time. Would it have been any less tragic if he had stolen the car, drove it to rob a bank the next day, killed a bank teller in the process, and then gotten away?

Your wrong on one point, its easy to figure out my position, I dislike cops alot!!!! Except for Jersey Man who is now retired. So I dislike most and usually all cops. I do not trust them, I will find alot of ways to blast them and my position has nothing to do with getting a wacko viewpoint to others. Its simple, I really do not like them. Sorry if you dont like the answer, and I do understand that I do **** people off and they probably dont like me too much either, however I could care less. I am sure they could care less about me too. This is why we have these forums, to express views and not worry or care about who we offend. Thats why I can be a loser and say this and hide like alittle coward behind my computer. Because pathetic losers do this!!! I guess your right Im like a troll I get it now. Hey at least I get some discussions going. Well sorry if you dislike my posts. I can understand why you think Im off the wall. ANd to be honest I am a bit of a kook. Look I smoked crack for 15 or more years, you got be a kook to do that right? I am not good at censoring my posts, I just say what I feel. This is why I never did too well in life. People really dont like me, I can be a bit too much to take , I got you fish!!

You know fish, my mother was a manic depressive and there was no cure or lithium when I was young, and my father was a genius in Chemistry so I turned out to be a nut who is alittle smart. It was destiny from birth, I remember as a kid visiting her in nuthouse and hospitals, and my dad was perfecting polysterene/plastics so I was doomed!! It was like living with a complete nut and a mad scientist so I guess genetics has something to do with it huh?? Then my dad hit it big time and it just made everyone in the family play out there dysfunctions easier with money. Then things went really wacko. It was not until getting sober did I realize I kinda lived the life of a sundance movie.

[njkate]

Oh brother.......

[stevemorse]

Originally Posted by njkate

Oh brother.......

hey thats the truth!! Another story huh kate. Well Im done anyway.