Mercer County? Philly metro or NYC metro? (Trenton, Camden: real estate, per square foot)

[MoorestownResident]

The census and all government entities need a re-org and areas need to be redefined. This happens every now and then. They are not always correct. Moorestown will never be part of NYC metro unless parts of lower Manhattan flood due to global warming and more folks have to retreat into South Jersey. The bottom line on Mercer is that it is technically part of both metro areas.

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by StuckPA

Being from the Philly area I'm sure you know about slackers Never heard it in NJ tho...

Btw nice stats...who made them up?

Prudential Fox.


http://www.prufoxroach.com/pdfs/pres...PA-chester.pdf

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by MoorestownResident

Slackers PA vs NJ? LMFAO

Rocker is good with stats, bad with interpretations and analysis. PA's income is very low compared to NJ's, even with affordable housing in the calcs.

I'm sorry where did I say NJ =Slacker,PA=non slacker?

Read what I said and try to soak it in.

South Jersey takes aback seat to North jersey in overall importance pertaining to your state.

South Jersey,although an asset and a fine area takes a back seat to the wealthy PA suburbs in regards to metro Philadelphia.

If you rank regions according to wealth.

1.North jersey suburbs
2.(PA) Philly suburbs
3.South Jersey suburbs

Its not open for debate.

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by lammius

Stand on the northbound platform at Princeton Jct and Hamilton, or take a morning rush hour drive north on Route 1. Then you'll see why. More people in Mercer commute north than south. And Census Journey-to-Work data proves it. Census 2000 Journey to Work County to County Worker Flows

Likewise Trenton,White Horse,Ewing even Lawrenceville the commuters are probably traveling souteastbound.

Can anyone lend credence to the theory that Mercer should absolutely be part of the Philadlephia metro but due to governmental and private constituents higher cost of living benefits fraudulently align themselves with NYC. Which in reality there really isn't much of a Mercer/NYC connection?

[MoorestownResident]

Originally Posted by rainrock

I'm sorry where did I say NJ =Slacker,PA=non slacker?

Read what I said and try to soak it in.

South Jersey takes aback seat to North jersey in overall importance pertaining to your state.

South Jersey,although an asset and a fine area takes a back seat to the wealthy PA suburbs in regards to metro Philadelphia.

If you rank regions according to wealth.

1.North jersey suburbs
2.(PA) Philly suburbs
3.South Jersey suburbs

Its not open for debate.

Rocker, you've been schooled before. I showed you that 4 SJ towns have 60% more condos on the market than 10 PA burbs. That is directly related to median income numbers. On an apples to apples comparison adjusted for low income housing:

1. North Jersey
2. Central/South Jersey
3. PA burbs
4. Philly/Camden

Which makes sense - Distance to NYC:

1. Closest
2. Commutable
3. Non-Commutable
4. Non-Commutable

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by MoorestownResident

Rocker, you've been schooled before. I showed you that 4 SJ towns have 60% more condos on the market than 10 PA burbs. That is directly related to median income numbers. On an apples to apples comparison adjusted for low income housing:

1. North Jersey
2. Central/South Jersey
3. PA burbs
4. Philly/Camden

LOL Cherry Hill/Haddonfield more important than King of Prussia/Plymouth meeting/Radnor. Lol at Moorestown/Marlton being more important than Philadlephia.Why dont you quit while you are behind.Really its not that bad, we wont think less of you if South Jersey isnt #1. You have issues Mrodent.


Metro Philadelphia Office space by submarket

1.Pa suburbs (KOP/Plymouth Meeting/ Malvern/Chesterbrook etc)
43 M sq ft. 40%

2.Center City
42 M sq ft 39%

3.South jersey
13 M sq ft 12%

4.Wilmington
9.7 M sq.ft 9%




Forbes Fortune 500 companies 2006.

FORTUNE 500 2006: States

Metro Philadlephia-Pennsylvania

Pennsylvania
State Rank Company Rank Revenues
($ millions) City
1 AmerisourceBergen 27 54,589.6 Chesterbrook
2 Sunoco 66 31,176.0 Philadelphia
3 Comcast 94 22,255.0 Philadelphia
5 Cigna 130 16,684.0 Philadelphia
7 Aramark 215 10,963.4 Philadelphia
10 Air Products & Chem. 282 8,143.5
11 Rohm & Haas 286 7,994.0 Philadelphia
13 Crown Holdings 321 6,908.0 Philadelphia
14 PPL 350 6,219.0
15 Toll Brothers 370 5,793.4 Horsham
16 Unisys 372 5,758.7 Blue Bell
18 Lincoln National 396 5,487.9 Philadelphia
20 Jones Apparel Group 425 5,074.2 Bristol
21 UGI 436 4,888.7 King of Prussia
24 Ikon Office Solutions 469 4,397.9 Malvern
25 Universal Health Svcs. 485 4,101.4 King of Prussia
26 SunGard Data Systems Wayne

South Jersey

Campbell Soup 302 7,548.0 Camden

[BPP1999]

Originally Posted by MoorestownResident

Rocker, you've been schooled before. I showed you that 4 SJ towns have 60% more condos on the market than 10 PA burbs. That is directly related to median income numbers. On an apples to apples comparison adjusted for low income housing:

1. North Jersey
2. Central/South Jersey
3. PA burbs
4. Philly/Camden

Which makes sense - Distance to NYC:

1. Closest
2. Commutable
3. Non-Commutable
4. Non-Commutable

Wait a minute, MR, I thought the nice parts of suburban Philly (the PA side) are "surrounded by blue collar areas"? Now you're saying that you are "adjusting" South Jersey? Well, why don't we "adjust" Montgomery County to throw out Norristown and Pottstown, Bucks County to throw out Bristol and Croyden, Chester County to throw out Coatesville and all of Amish Country, and Delaware County to throw out Chester and Lansdowne? Funny that even with these "blue collar areas", SEPA still clearly beats out South Jersey in incomes, jobs, etc.

What's with your need to establish a bragging right about where you live? You're better because of where you live? It must be really tough for you, driving through other areas of the country where lesser people live.

Funny that now you're talking about NYC and it's effect on SJ. A month ago you were telling us how SJ is creating all these jobs with high incomes, blah blah blah, and now you're saying SJ's income is going up because proximity to NYC. Well, I agree with this point. Places like Burlington County are not experiencing income increases because of the "Cherry Hill/Mount Laurel" corridor, but because of the push down from NYC. It's also funny that even though suburban PA is so "non-commutable" it still has you crushed in terms of jobs, income, wealth, colleges, etc.

Rainrock has it right, and no matter how you twist data, you can't change this. And for the record, I don't think anyone on the PA boards bashes SJ or tells people not to move there, so I'm still wondering why you are so anti-PA.

[MoorestownResident]

Go for it, there is no affordable housing mandate in PA. To make PA NJ comparable you have to adjust for affordable and low income housing. 4 SJ towns - Cherry Hill, Voorhees, Mount Laurel and Marlton recently 60% MORE condos on the market than TEN towns in the PA burbs. This presents major problems in the income and housing data.

[Badfish740]

This is truly amusing.

[BPP1999]

Originally Posted by Badfish740

This is truly amusing.

You should check out the PA threads; any thread there that MR touches goes to the dogs.