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12-15-2008, 08:29 PM
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Getting a body bag, yeah.
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Originally Posted by Gerania
Even in the German Army there was a difference between those who performed their duties and those who went above and beyond the call. No one suggests that little Adolph will necessarily become the next "Hitler". We are concerned that he will grow up to be Klebold or Harris or something worse. Not enough hate mongers are wussies.
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HE'S NOT GOING TO BECOME THE NEXT KLEBOLD OR HARRIS.
Understand something - Klebold and Harris were not Nazis. They were undermedicated psychopaths with a shared delusion. Completely different ballpark than a kid with a hatemongering father.
The shared factor here is that Klebold and Harris were picked on. And they were wussies.
One thing about skinheads/nazis/etc... because their groups are so small, they do have a support system. It's completely twisted and wrong, but it is a support system, something that Klebold and Harris didn't have access to.
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12-15-2008, 08:30 PM
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Getting a body bag, yeah.
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Heh, I was looking at props out there when I was in the process of moving.
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12-15-2008, 10:51 PM
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I don't completely disagree with what you're saying. I think that these children will have an emotionally difficult upbringing. If a child is intelligent, questioning, by the the time he/she is an adolescent, they may question their own upbringing. Even children brought up in circumstances such as these rebel. They do, through neighbors, the school system, come into contact with others who may influence them, help. It may not be likely, but it's possible.
I don't think that the network of Nazi, skinhead filth is small.
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Originally Posted by SweepTheLeg
HE'S NOT GOING TO BECOME THE NEXT KLEBOLD OR HARRIS.
Understand something - Klebold and Harris were not Nazis. They were undermedicated psychopaths with a shared delusion. Completely different ballpark than a kid with a hatemongering father.
The shared factor here is that Klebold and Harris were picked on. And they were wussies.
One thing about skinheads/nazis/etc... because their groups are so small, they do have a support system. It's completely twisted and wrong, but it is a support system, something that Klebold and Harris didn't have access to.
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12-16-2008, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SweepTheLeg
HE'S NOT GOING TO BECOME THE NEXT KLEBOLD OR HARRIS.
Understand something - Klebold and Harris were not Nazis. They were undermedicated psychopaths with a shared delusion. Completely different ballpark than a kid with a hatemongering father.
The shared factor here is that Klebold and Harris were picked on. And they were wussies.
One thing about skinheads/nazis/etc... because their groups are so small, they do have a support system. It's completely twisted and wrong, but it is a support system, something that Klebold and Harris didn't have access to.
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You're not understanding my point. From a young age these children will be pariahs in their community. Teachers won't know what to do with them, parents won't let their children go near them, etc... These kids are going to grow up as extremely damaged outcasts. That goes way beyond getting "picked on." As I said before, the fact that they are unwanted by anyone and ostracized will only reinforce the lies their father and mother tell them. Therefore they will learn to hate at an early age. Hate is a very powerful thing whether you are a "wussy" or not. When these kids end up shooting up a school in 10 years don't say I didn't warn you.
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12-16-2008, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Badfish740
You're not understanding my point. From a young age these children will be pariahs in their community. Teachers won't know what to do with them, parents won't let their children go near them, etc... These kids are going to grow up as extremely damaged outcasts. That goes way beyond getting "picked on." As I said before, the fact that they are unwanted by anyone and ostracized will only reinforce the lies their father and mother tell them. Therefore they will learn to hate at an early age. Hate is a very powerful thing whether you are a "wussy" or not. When these kids end up shooting up a school in 10 years don't say I didn't warn you.
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i can honestly say if i was living there and had kids the same age, no way in hell would they be allowed to play with them. sorry, but the truth.
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12-16-2008, 08:37 AM
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i can honestly say if i was living there and had kids the same age, no way in hell would they be allowed to play with them. sorry, but the truth.
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No apology needed. I am truly sad for these children but there is no way I'd let my children near that family. It's unfortunate, but that's just good parenting. I can only hope that these people will eventually warrant the state taking the children away. A horrible thing in and of itself, yes, but I see it as the lesser of two evils here. At least if they were placed in a normal and loving environment they could have some hope of leading productive and mentally healthy lives.
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12-16-2008, 08:54 AM
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No apology needed. I am truly sad for these children but there is no way I'd let my children near that family. It's unfortunate, but that's just good parenting. I can only hope that these people will eventually warrant the state taking the children away. A horrible thing in and of itself, yes, but I see it as the lesser of two evils here. At least if they were placed in a normal and loving environment they could have some hope of leading productive and mentally healthy lives.
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I would let them come play at my home....it might help them to see not everything is about hate
But as far as my kids going to their home, no way no how
Sadly though they more than likely aren't allowed interaction with normal kids, more than likely will be home schooled so the parents can drum the hate into their little heads...with no outside inteference
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12-16-2008, 09:23 AM
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I would let them come play at my home....it might help them to see not everything is about hate
But as far as my kids going to their home, no way no how
Sadly though they more than likely aren't allowed interaction with normal kids, more than likely will be home schooled so the parents can drum the hate into their little heads...with no outside inteference
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did you catch how they can't work? he has emphysema, she has a bad back. living off SS, but apparently they are well enough to have and take care of 3 kids, ages 3, 2 and 1.
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12-16-2008, 09:48 AM
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did you catch how they can't work? he has emphysema, she has a bad back. living off SS, but apparently they are well enough to have and take care of 3 kids, ages 3, 2 and 1.
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It's the old saying.."you need a license to fish but any A hole can have kids"
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12-16-2008, 09:49 AM
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did you catch how they can't work? he has emphysema, she has a bad back. living off SS, but apparently they are well enough to have and take care of 3 kids, ages 3, 2 and 1.
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Oh I know! Don't you love it? The SSI payment from YOUR check every week is going to this colony of dirtbags.
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