Nazis in Holland Township????? WOW (crimes, new house, military)

[Lusitan]

Originally Posted by Badfish740

From a young age these children will be pariahs in their community. Teachers won't know what to do with them, parents won't let their children go near them, etc... These kids are going to grow up as extremely damaged outcasts. That goes way beyond getting "picked on." As I said before, the fact that they are unwanted by anyone and ostracized will only reinforce the lies their father and mother tell them. Therefore they will learn to hate at an early age. Hate is a very powerful thing whether you are a "wussy" or not. When these kids end up shooting up a school in 10 years don't say I didn't warn you.

The sad thing is, all of the things you describe above can and do happen all the time, to kids who aren't named "Adolf" but who are outcasts for one reason or another.

Kids are cruel; it's sad to think about.

[Badfish740]

Originally Posted by Lusitan

The sad thing is, all of the things you describe above can and do happen all the time, to kids who aren't named "Adolf" but who are outcasts for one reason or another. Kids are cruel; it's sad to think about.

Absolutely, but even the so-called "nerdy" kid or "dorky" girl can find a niche. What are you supposed to do when even adults avoid you like a leper?

[TylerJAX]

There are actually quite a few hate groups in existence in NJ.

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp#s=NJ

[JWhiskey]

The only thing about some of these groups is, some of them (like the AC skinheads) used to be a big deal years ago,....but nowadays just sit around in each other's basements listening to bad records complaining that our president is black. They may call themselves an organization.....but they don't DO anything....or advertise it in the least. Especially in the punk scene in the 80's (which i wasn't around for but know many people who were ) there were fights amongst neo nazi jerks and everyone else at every damn show. Now, you would be hard pressed to find a Nazi at a show anywhere....ANYWHERE in NJ. It's very rare. Hence my surprise.

As far as my comment about PA, I will say that Allentown, PA for some reason is like a crazy east coast hub for racist skinheads. I don't know why. It was partially a joke I was making about PA>....but I guess I have personally experienced more nazi's in larger groups in PA than here for sure.

I'd also like to take the time to remind the board that not ALL skinheads are racists. There's a distinct difference from people who call themselves "skinheads" and people who shave their heads, and preach neo-nazi BS (they are referred to as BONEheads). I would say about 90% of the worlds skinheads are absolutley NOT racist. just fyi.....

[Audrey Ann]

Originally Posted by doc1

There also used to be one in Andover TWP.

I didn't know that!!

[Audrey Ann]

Originally Posted by wileynj

I guess you missed the 1 yr old daughter's name..

JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell

Nothing surprises me but from a legal standpoint... shoprite should comply with their request. There's a camp in Flanders that was once a Nazi training camp! It's still there but now it's just a recreational camp.

What?!! As a young child, I hung out in that town with friends (we're talking about 40 years ago)!

[Audrey Ann]

Originally Posted by tahiti

i can honestly say if i was living there and had kids the same age, no way in hell would they be allowed to play with them. sorry, but the truth.

I think I might allow it ... but NEVER in the other kids' home.
Hey, they gotta have good influences in their lives in order to see the other side. Right? I mean, I don't have kids but I do have a large extended family and am protective of them, however, my family tries to maintain an 'openness'. Maybe I am naive ??

[JWhiskey]

Originally Posted by Audrey Ann

I think I might allow it ... but NEVER in the other kids' home.
Hey, they gotta have good influences in their lives in order to see the other side. Right? I mean, I don't have kids but I do have a large extended family and am protective of them, however, my family tries to maintain an 'openness'. Maybe I am naive ??

I also come from a family with "open" beliefs and such....I've never been a judgemental person....

But in this case, i just don't know. If i have kids, I can't imagine I would be thrilled about them playing with these kids. You also have to remember, these parents are pretty hard core racist. If I had kids, I am pretty sure these jerks would not allow their kids to play with mine since I am not an Aryan or a Nazi. I wouldn't be surprised if they were home schooled for that purpose alone....

A lot of the time they stick to their own...and by "their own" i mean, people with the same beliefs , or people who (for some reason) don't agree , but tollerate them.

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by Audrey Ann

I think I might allow it ... but NEVER in the other kids' home.
Hey, they gotta have good influences in their lives in order to see the other side. Right? I mean, I don't have kids but I do have a large extended family and am protective of them, however, my family tries to maintain an 'openness'. Maybe I am naive ??

unfortunately, to have the kids over, you have to deal with the parents, and I just wouldn't have the stomach or the inclination. really, it pains me to say it, because you are right, having some sort of other influence is probably a good thing, but, I wouldn't risk my kids hearing the hateful rhetoric that is BOUND to come out of their mouths. My kids know about Adolf Hitler now, and honestly, I think THEY would shy away from them.

[Badfish740]

Originally Posted by JWhiskey

If I had kids, I am pretty sure these jerks would not allow their kids to play with mine since I am not an Aryan or a Nazi. I wouldn't be surprised if they were home schooled for that purpose alone....

Mine either since they would be non Anglo Saxon Irish-Italian mutts I think home schooling is well beyond their abilities however-I'm pretty sure you need some sort of qualifications for that. These people are simply losers (both look relatively able bodied-hell they were healthy enough to pop out three kids) who latched on to being "Neo-Nazis" for some form of identity. They bum around all day on our dime collecting Nazi paraphernalia probably because "Heath" (real first name Isidore) got stuffed into lockers on the daily in high school but now he's a "bad***" It wouldn't surprise me in the least to learn that he has no German heritage to speak of. Nevertheless, these poor children deserve a chance and should be taken from these bottom feeding lowlifes.