Paterson??? (Clifton, Wayne, Fort Lee: for rent, crime rate, homes)

[mead]

You're 100%. It is due to the geography, but it should be interesting to watch the trends over the next couple of years. Will gentrification come up the PATH line to Journal square in Jersey City and towards Harrison & Newark? Or is that too large of a barrier to cross.

Newark/Harrison are afterall only about a 20 minute ride on the PATH from the World Trade Center. I think the main issue of why Jersey City/Hoboken have changed and other close-by areas haven't also has a large part to do with demographics and how NJ has changed over the past couple of decades.

[SilkCity0416]

Geography is a major reason why JC and Hoboken are back. It is right smack across the Hudson from Manhattan. If a city like Paterson wants to rebuild, it needs to offer some sort of direct public trainsit from it's downtown to Manhattan. The dollar bus and the ever slow NJ Trainsit bus won't work. That can begin to turn the tide of the city rotting from it's core. Also, it needs to clean up. 20 years ago parts of Manhattan like Hell's Kitchen, were a slum. Now it is a trendy place to live. Patersonians are just your average type of people. They wouldn't care about a Starbucks or some fancy store. People like that only care about traditional mom-and-pop stores, or your family run buisiness. Starbucks wouldn't fly in Paterson. So instead of Paterson trying to be SoHo, Paterson should build homes for the average Joe and Jane. I seen some really nice apartments are built across town. The thing is, who can afford it when the rent is over $1000 for a two bedroom?

[ScranBarre]

I actually just did a few hours of research into Newark last night, and I must admit that I was impressed by what I saw. Here in Scranton, just mentioning the word "Newark" elicits shudders and references to gangs and drug trafficking. From what I saw online, there is a growing number of people in Newark who are joining together to try to help it on a path to recovery. I read about someone who was doing a guided walking tour of the Weequahic area of South Newark. I read about people who were enjoying photographing different areas of the city. I read about the New Jersey Performing Arts Center, Red Bull Park (new soccer venue in Ironbound), and the new Prudential Center, where the NJ Devils will play hockey. I read about the Portuguese helping to revitalize the Ironbound neighborhood with their entrepreneurial expertise, and I read about various other projects aimed at helping the city to recover. I just think that Paterson, and even Camden, with their close proximities to NYC and Philly respectively, can make similar strides in the right direction. Newark's population is actually growing again, which is a positive sign.

[NewHomeHappy]

Originally Posted by ScrantonWilkesBarre

I actually just did a few hours of research into Newark last night, and I must admit that I was impressed by what I saw. Here in Scranton, just mentioning the word "Newark" elicits shudders and references to gangs and drug trafficking. From what I saw online, there is a growing number of people in Newark who are joining together to try to help it on a path to recovery. I read about someone who was doing a guided walking tour of the Weequahic area of South Newark. I read about people who were enjoying photographing different areas of the city. I read about the New Jersey Performing Arts Center, Red Bull Park (new soccer venue in Ironbound), and the new Prudential Center, where the NJ Devils will play hockey. I read about the Portuguese helping to revitalize the Ironbound neighborhood with their entrepreneurial expertise, and I read about various other projects aimed at helping the city to recover. I just think that Paterson, and even Camden, with their close proximities to NYC and Philly respectively, can make similar strides in the right direction. Newark's population is actually growing again, which is a positive sign.

Visit Newark in person not Online.

[ScranBarre]

Originally Posted by NewHomeHappy

Visit Newark in person not Online.

Touche! (Too-shay!)

[CrazyJerzyKidUNO]

Hes right though. But still im sure the website makes it look just a tad bit (being sarcastic) than the real thing. But Newark is pretty great to visit. Check it out.

[CrazyJerzyKidUNO]

Originally Posted by SilkCity0416

Geography is a major reason why JC and Hoboken are back. It is right smack across the Hudson from Manhattan. If a city like Paterson wants to rebuild, it needs to offer some sort of direct public trainsit from it's downtown to Manhattan. The dollar bus and the ever slow NJ Trainsit bus won't work. That can begin to turn the tide of the city rotting from it's core. Also, it needs to clean up. 20 years ago parts of Manhattan like Hell's Kitchen, were a slum. Now it is a trendy place to live. Patersonians are just your average type of people. They wouldn't care about a Starbucks or some fancy store. People like that only care about traditional mom-and-pop stores, or your family run buisiness. Starbucks wouldn't fly in Paterson. So instead of Paterson trying to be SoHo, Paterson should build homes for the average Joe and Jane. I seen some really nice apartments are built across town. The thing is, who can afford it when the rent is over $1000 for a two bedroom?

Have you ever been around E 41st street and that area? Its like you arn't even in Paterson. It looks like you all the sudden ended up in Alpine. All of the Mansions in the other parts of town that have been converted to 5 family houses and **** are what you will find in this area except they are still 1 family. Check it out. I went there to look at a house my grandfather lived in . The house he lived in isnt that great but the houses around it are. It looks like a well-to-do suburb.

[valerie123]

I would look into Wayne they have apartments at the end of Valley Road I think Manchester, ManchesterII and others and you can take Hamburg Tpk. right into Paterson nice and safe area.

[hallidae]

move to paterson.

trust me... it not bad AT ALL! btw ... clifton is really nice and its border with paterson

[slaite1]

Definetely Clifton. It's right next to Paterson. Most of the areas are safe and clean. If you stay away from the borders to Paterson/Passaic most of the city is actually really nice. The schools are ok, at least until you get to High School. Little Falls, Cedar Grove, Verona, Totowa are all literally minutes away, especially if you learn the back roads. Rutherford, Fairlawn, Glen Rock, and Lodi are also close via back roads, and pretty nice towns, plus there all a closer commute to the city if you're interested. The housing prices vary between these towns, though, and there are some real dumps in some of them, so do your research.