Union City (West New York, Hoboken: appointed, rent, house)

[JG183]

Originally Posted by gradstudent77

Why would your response get ripped to shreds? The suburbs are full of millions of people who presumably feel the way you do about living in a more urban, diverse place.

Again, the crime index numbers I saw were not that much worse than Hoboken. For context, Newark was shockingly higher than hoboken (the reason I keep referring to hoboken is it is where the op currently lives.).

Hudson County towns are a different animal.

The police are an extension of the politicians, i.e. the mayors don't want their towns to be percieved as "bad", so the police do things to keep the numbers down.

I won't elaborate further, you can connect the dots on your own, or just talk to people who have lived in Hudson County for more than 20 years (though there are very few of those left)...

[Jose Fernandez]

Originally Posted by JG183

I know that Union City & West New York are taking great pains to gentrify the area, and it certainly will be an easy commute, but unless you're comfortable with both ethnic & financial diversity, you won't be comfortable...

Well said, especially if you are from out of town. I would recommend the area around River Rd. in WNY if you can afford it. Also, put your childrens private school expenses into your budget, for I certainly wouldn't send them to city schools. It's a tale of two worlds. Above the cliffs, and along the river.

[popschild]

It baffles me that in an area thats considered part of the "NY metropolitan area" that people are even entertaining the assumption that someone would be afraid of living in an "ethnically diverse" area. Its one thing if we're commenting on crime rates and general safety but I find it offensive and tacky to bring up ethnicity has a factor in whether or not an area should be considered comfortable to live and commute in. It sounds like Union City has alot of CULTURE which if your planting roots would be interesting and educational as opposed to living in some culturally exterminated yuppified toy city.

[JG183]

Originally Posted by popschild

It baffles me that in an area thats considered part of the "NY metropolitan area" that people are even entertaining the assumption that someone would be afraid of living in an "ethnically diverse" area.

"ethnically diverse" is the PC way of stating a fact.

let's put it another way -- if you're a WASP, you'll be in the distinct minority if you move to Union City.

Originally Posted by popschild

Its one thing if we're commenting on crime rates and general safety but I find it offensive and tacky to bring up ethnicity has a factor in whether or not an area should be considered comfortable to live and commute in.

offensive and tacky ? maybe, but it shouldn't be discounted any more than discounting someone's desire not to live next to neighbors who's dog barks all night long.

Originally Posted by popschild

It sounds like Union City has alot of CULTURE which if your planting roots would be interesting and educational as opposed to living in some culturally exterminated yuppified toy city.

Palisades Park has asian culture...
Iselin has indian culture...
but the kind of culture we're talking here is nothing like that.

I'm sorry if you're offended, truly. But to commit to buying a home & going thru the trouble of moving, is too much to invest to find out later that an area just isn't your cup of tea. I thought that's what this forum was about, for us to educate each other on all aspects.

[Jose Fernandez]

Originally Posted by popschild

It baffles me that in an area thats considered part of the "NY metropolitan area" that people are even entertaining the assumption that someone would be afraid of living in an "ethnically diverse" area. Its one thing if we're commenting on crime rates and general safety but I find it offensive and tacky to bring up ethnicity has a factor in whether or not an area should be considered comfortable to live and commute in. It sounds like Union City has alot of CULTURE which if your planting roots would be interesting and educational as opposed to living in some culturally exterminated yuppified toy city.

Although I can appreciate your acceptance in racial diversity, I believe we are in a public forum and find it in my best interest to educate anyone who is seeking vital information on something that I am knowledgeable in. I was raised in the UC, West New York area and can factually state that unless you are of Hispanic origin, you will not feel comfortable in this area. It's not the crime, or education or lack thereof, it's simply finding yourself as an outcast. Would you feel comfortable going to your teller in your bank, and them speaking to you in Spanish? Simply put, I wouldn't move to Haiti if I didn't speak French.

[Jose Fernandez]

Originally Posted by JG183

"ethnically diverse" is the PC way of stating a fact.

let's put it another way -- if you're a WASP, you'll be in the distinct minority if you move to Union City.




offensive and tacky ? maybe, but it shouldn't be discounted any more than discounting someone's desire not to live next to neighbors who's dog barks all night long.



Palisades Park has asian culture...
Iselin has indian culture...
but the kind of culture we're talking here is nothing like that.

I'm sorry if you're offended, truly. But to commit to buying a home & going thru the trouble of moving, is too much to invest to find out later that an area just isn't your cup of tea. I thought that's what this forum was about, for us to educate each other on all aspects.

You make some valid points JG. But, I'm curious to know what are the differences in say Pal PK, and Iselin to what you perceive UC to be? Aside from the obvious, suburban to urban, are you saying that hispanics are worse than Asians and Indians? I only mention this cause you state "the kind of culture we're talking here is nothing like that".

[gradstudent77]

Originally Posted by Jose Fernandez

Although I can appreciate your acceptance in racial diversity, I believe we are in a public forum and find it in my best interest to educate anyone who is seeking vital information on something that I am knowledgeable in. I was raised in the UC, West New York area and can factually state that unless you are of Hispanic origin, you will not feel comfortable in this area. It's not the crime, or education or lack thereof, it's simply finding yourself as an outcast. Would you feel comfortable going to your teller in your bank, and them speaking to you in Spanish? Simply put, I wouldn't move to Haiti if I didn't speak French.

I am white, grew up in the heart of the area and loved it. I don't really speak spanish all that well,either.

[Jose Fernandez]

Originally Posted by gradstudent77

I am white, grew up in the heart of the area and loved it. I don't really speak spanish all that well,either.

No offense intended, but I bet you either stayed indoors alone or with company, or hung out in other area's. I doubt that you hung out at Studio 45, or Armando's salsa groove. I'm simply trying to inform people of what it's like here. Nothing wrong here, just letting you know that English is the second language.

[NJ Chutzpah]

^^^

Well maybe he was a child of the 70's

[gradstudent77]

I lived in north bergen from 1986 to 2003. I moved out when I was 16. I don't know what studio 45 or armando's is.

I mostly post in response to these threads about north hudson, because there is a lot of misinformation spewed about the area. I disagree with those that claim it is dangerous. I also disagree with those that claim someone who is not hispanic should not (could not?) live there. Yes, I would agree that Spanish is the primary language spoken in the area, but I did grow up there and I did not speak much spanish until I learned it in a classroom in high school.

I would most likely not raise my children there, unless I sent them away to boarding school. But, for a young professional sans children who works in nyc?? North Hudson is a great option, as is Hoboken, as is downtown JC, JSQ, and some neighborhoods in the outer boroughs.