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04-17-2009, 10:32 AM
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I am not sure I get it. You are upset with CBOs estimates? You are upset with Bush turning Clinton's budget surplus into a deficit? Isn't it a little bit late for that? Or you are upset that Obama is trying to turn the economy and then reduce the deficit?
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04-17-2009, 10:37 AM
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i believe many conservatives were angry with the spending under bush. however, obama has taken it to another level and has introduced more of the idea of government taking over the private sector. obama wishes to destroy the private sector and create a communist dictatorship. bush was just a corrupt wasteful spender. obama is that and a commie.
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So basically you are outraged by Keynesian economics? Right? I didn't know Roosevelt was a big commie. Well if you say so...
So basically Bush was a wasteful spender. Obama is trying to do something useful with money. I get it...
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04-17-2009, 10:43 AM
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So basically you are outraged by Keynesian economics? Right? I didn't know Roosevelt was a big commie. Well if you say so...
So basically Bush was a wasteful spender. Obama is trying to do something useful with money. I get it...
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why werent you aware that roosevelt was a big commie? out of the new deal some of the worst communist programs were created that still exist today.
obama isnt trying to do something useful with our money, he is trying to spend it for us the way he wants to spend it. that doesnt work. thats why roosevelt kept us in a depression for over 10 years and thats why this depression will also go on for many years.
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04-17-2009, 10:44 AM
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So basically you are outraged by Keynesian economics? Right? I didn't know Roosevelt was a big commie. Well if you say so...
So basically Bush was a wasteful spender. Obama is trying to do something useful with money. I get it...
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Bush spent absurd money on such a pointless war and Obama is spending an obscene amount of money to bail out banks and other companies that are pretty much run by thieves in 4,000 dollar Armani suits.
Regardless, we are screwed. Both Dubya and Barry need to understand that throwing money at something wrong will not make it right - ever.
I have said it a trillion times, and I will say it again. The Democrats and Republicans BOTH got us in this mess, and now they feel that throwing money around like a drunken, horny sailor on three day leave will magically repair everything. If you believe that any politician is looking out for our best interests, then you need to go in for a psychiatric evaluation ASAP.
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04-17-2009, 10:49 AM
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can someone explain to me why obama wants to send another 20k troops to afghanistan? ill tell you why, it earns him or his cronies money and/or political power. politicians are nothing but totally corrupt. bush created a stimulus program to benefit himself and thats why obama did it. it has nothing to do with helping america.
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04-17-2009, 10:49 AM
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I am not sure I get it. You are upset with CBOs estimates? You are upset with Bush turning Clinton's budget surplus into a deficit? Isn't it a little bit late for that? Or you are upset that Obama is trying to turn the economy and then reduce the deficit?
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I'm starting to think that this so called tea party protest is just more selective "outrage" ie, nonsense and much to scream about nothing. Both of the major parties spend money. This didn't just start recently. One wants to borrow and spend, and the other wants to tax and spend. Suddenly, there is "outrage" over the budget. So what is next? Are we going to have a "gun party" because people think they can't have guns anymore?
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04-17-2009, 10:52 AM
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why werent you aware that roosevelt was a big commie? out of the new deal some of the worst communist programs were created that still exist today.
obama isnt trying to do something useful with our money, he is trying to spend it for us the way he wants to spend it. that doesnt work. thats why roosevelt kept us in a depression for over 10 years and thats why this depression will also go on for many years.
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yeah I know. building schools and highways. crazy, right?
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04-17-2009, 10:54 AM
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we should have elected ron paul so we dont have this confusion. both republican politicians and democrat politicians are evil. attacking barack osama doesnt mean that you approve of bush. both of them were harmful to our country. osama is more harmful because new socialist programs dont go away. its hard to take something from someone after you give it to them.
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04-17-2009, 10:56 AM
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yeah I know. building schools and highways. crazy, right?
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i dont think in such a simplistic way like that so just saying "building schools and highways" cant be labeled as crazy or sane. it depends on if the money is there for the construction, if they are needed, if they are being done efficiently, etc. im sure with government's involvement the answer is that there isnt the money, most probably arent needed and they definitely arent being done efficiently. so ill say, yeah crazy.
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04-17-2009, 10:56 AM
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we should have elected ron paul so we dont have this confusion. both republican politicians and deomcrat politicians are evil. attacking barack osama doesnt mean that you approve of bush. both of them were harmful to our country. osama is more harmful because new socialist programs dont go away. its hard to take something from someone after you give it to them.
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And that line is where the Dems and Repubs brains shut off. You criticize one, then you MUST be a (insert political hack party here).
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