Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New Jersey
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 04-16-2009, 08:23 PM
 
1,453 posts, read 4,924,603 times
Reputation: 336

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by shorebaby View Post
Well forgive me for not catching that when you quoted directly from my post.

And before you go back to the silly topic of parents paying for their children I don't object to it because the "schoalrship" is directed towards one group, my children, it doesn't exlude only one group.
I hope that it is at least based on merit and if so they are some lucky kids.

 
Old 04-16-2009, 08:24 PM
 
Location: NJ
2,210 posts, read 7,016,485 times
Reputation: 2193
Quote:
Originally Posted by shorebaby View Post
Well I commend you on your expansive view of human nature, however I believe the vast majority of folks (including me) would be offended by this.
Why? Maybe someone making a donation had his entire family wiped out in land wars on a specific continent and was then forced to leave his ancestral homeland and didn't want anything to do with people from there ever again.

Lets say an Armenian lost his family to genocide and blamed the Turks. Who cares if he leaves a scholarship and refuses to give money to any people of Turkish descent? Sucks to be Turkish in that case, but it would be a personal issue.
 
Old 04-16-2009, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
19,890 posts, read 18,722,751 times
Reputation: 3146
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyntmac View Post
I hope that it is at least based on merit and if so they are some lucky kids.
It better be!
 
Old 04-16-2009, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
19,890 posts, read 18,722,751 times
Reputation: 3146
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnthonyB View Post
Why? Maybe someone making a donation had his entire family wiped out in land wars on a specific continent and was then forced to leave his ancestral homeland and didn't want anything to do with people from there ever again.

Lets say an Armenian lost his family to genocide and blamed the Turks. Who cares if he leaves a scholarship and refuses to give money to any people of Turkish descent? Sucks to be Turkish in that case, but it would be a personal issue.

Supose someone was mugged by an Asian gang does that give them the right to discriminate against Asians?
 
Old 04-16-2009, 08:27 PM
 
1,453 posts, read 4,924,603 times
Reputation: 336
Quote:
Originally Posted by shorebaby View Post
I think this makes it worse, the donor is specifically discriminating against people of European decent.
It doesn't mention Euro decent at all. One's whiteness is a construct. All Europeans are not necessarily white.
Like I said in an earlier post- It really takes some balls to think that you can determine someone's whiteness.
Our Government certainly did that in regard to who they considered "not white" for centuries.
 
Old 04-16-2009, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
19,890 posts, read 18,722,751 times
Reputation: 3146
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyntmac View Post
It doesn't mention Euro decent at all. One's whiteness is a construct. All Europeans are not necessarily white.
Like I said in an earlier post- It really takes some balls to think that you can determine someone's whiteness.
Our Government certainly did that in regard to who they considered "not white" for centuries.

We were doing so nicely avoiding the silliness. You must be a recent college grad. No?
 
Old 04-16-2009, 08:30 PM
 
1,453 posts, read 4,924,603 times
Reputation: 336
Not even close. I wish.
 
Old 04-16-2009, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
2,771 posts, read 6,266,224 times
Reputation: 606
Quote:
Originally Posted by shorebaby View Post
And before you go back to the silly topic of parents paying for their children I don't object to it because the "schoalrship" is directed towards one group, my children, it doesn't exlude only one group.
I'm not quite shore that I follow. If the scholarship was specifically for African Americans, then would that be OK with you ?

What about if there were separate scholarships offered independently, one for each conceivable group except for white males ?

What I'm getting at is, are you primarily concerned about the unfairness of the social impact of the scholarship, or are you concerned with the provocative symbolism of its explicitly exclusionary nature ?
 
Old 04-16-2009, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
19,890 posts, read 18,722,751 times
Reputation: 3146
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyntmac View Post
Not even close. I wish.
The next time I am asked about my race on a passport application I will be sure to writer exactly what you posted above. Or better yet when a grant targeted at minorities comes up I will apply for it and when I get it and go collect the money and they see my lack of pigment, I will whip out your statement sure to get me off the hook.

Last edited by shorebaby; 04-16-2009 at 08:54 PM..
 
Old 04-16-2009, 08:37 PM
 
1,453 posts, read 4,924,603 times
Reputation: 336
It's not just "my statement". This is an important piece of our country's history.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread



Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New Jersey

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:24 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top