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08-11-2009, 06:26 AM
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I see people posting about the superiority of NJ schools over other locations. This is a generalization at best. If you go to many of the blue collar and rural towns of NJ, you will find schools that are severely lacking. You will find the same thing in other areas of the country.
What I have found is that if you live in a good town in another state, for example, Union County, NC or Southlake, TX (just to name two) the schools are on par with any school in NJ. The best schools in NJ are that because the families in that town are educated and take an active role in their childs education. The schools so in Short Hills are good because of the education levels of the parents in town and the tax revenues to support the programs. Now, go to Bricktown and you will see much lower test scores and a lack of funding.
On top of that, the public universities in NJ are not as good and more expensive for residents than those of Virginia, NC or Texas (popular NJ transplant destinations).
I grew up in NJ and love the state and many of the things that I grew up with, but I am willing to admit its shortcomings.
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With the high prices you generally get great services, particularly the schools...even the crappy schools are comparable to good schools in some other places. I personally see nothing wrong with Teaneck, but I do prefer northern Bergen (mainly Pascack Valley). And all the towns that Moorestown listed seemed to be rich white towns...I guess you're scared of a little diversity.
I've been to plenty of places but cannot see living anywhere but here in Jersey because of the convenience, especially in Bergen County. Oh and Jersey City has some nice parts but prices are completely outrageous!
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08-11-2009, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by theS5
I see people posting about the superiority of NJ schools over other locations. This is a generalization at best. If you go to many of the blue collar and rural towns of NJ, you will find schools that are severely lacking. You will find the same thing in other areas of the country.
What I have found is that if you live in a good town in another state, for example, Union County, NC or Southlake, TX (just to name two) the schools are on par with any school in NJ. The best schools in NJ are that because the families in that town are educated and take an active role in their childs education. The schools so in Short Hills are good because of the education levels of the parents in town and the tax revenues to support the programs. Now, go to Bricktown and you will see much lower test scores and a lack of funding.
On top of that, the public universities in NJ are not as good and more expensive for residents than those of Virginia, NC or Texas (popular NJ transplant destinations).
I grew up in NJ and love the state and many of the things that I grew up with, but I am willing to admit its shortcomings.
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Huuhhhhh????? How dare you blasphemize the highly touted NJ schools!!!!!! 
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08-11-2009, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MoorestownResident
I agree Hackensack is worse, never really liked Bergen County. Too close to Clifton, Patterson, Passiac, etc.
Makes me chuckle when I read two people trashing a town like "PATTERSON" and they can't even spell it right.
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Whoops, but be honest spelling it wrong doesn't mean I don't know how unsafe and undesirable it is. I mean maybe it was my subconscious throwing in an extra “t” because it is extra Terrible.
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08-11-2009, 11:44 AM
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I am pretty sure i could survive walking on the "mean streets of Teaneck" after dark 
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Me too, and, a lot of those houses in the 'hood' start at $500K too!
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08-11-2009, 11:52 AM
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way to rag on the OP's new hometown.  do you even know that area beyond generalizations or superficial, passing observations?
you're always telling us how great your hometown of moorestown is. and it is a nice area. but in the future, could you do us all a favor and stick to what you know best (moorestown/south jersey)? because you clearly don't know north jersey very well, based on this and some of your earlier posts. you may think you do, but what you've said tells me otherwise.
seriously, let those who actually know north jersey's towns, inside-and-out, to comment on their pros and cons.
and for the record, teaneck is not a dump. it's actually a very decent town with leafy streets, a fair amount of attractive architecture, and a bustling downtown area. the population is racially mixed and includes lower middle, middle, and upper middle income residents. the most expensive homes, located near route 4 in the northwestern section of town, easily cost over $1 million. there are also modest cape cods, generic post WWII-split levels, quaint tudors and colonials, old victorian homes, and so forth. some of these areas are very nice, some not so much, but none of it is even close to being a dump - not even the so-called "hood", which is nothing more than a lower middle class african-american neighborhood.
overall, teaneck's median household income in 2000 was more or less in line with cherry hill, albeit with a wider range of incomes than the latter.
and teaneck's neighbors are all very decent as well. the supposedly "worst" town bordering teaneck is hackensack (which is also mixed income and mixed race), while the other immediate neighbors are mostly middle class or better. go a few miles east, northeast, north, or northwest, and you'll hit some of the more affluent and well-manicured areas of northeast jersey.
but hey, none of this can compare with moorestown, right? because that place is like the center of universe!  
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Excellent post 
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08-13-2009, 01:16 AM
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Well I would agree with most of the posters. All of NJ is overpriced except maybe southern areas. That said you pay for the location. If you want to be close to everything you have to pay for it. I moved away and I miss what NJ offers as to location.
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08-17-2009, 07:41 PM
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Yea you cant lump Clifton in with Paterson and Passaic at all... Completely different place. Clifton is a fine town
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I was born and raised in Passaic...I agree that it has changed over the years. There are good parts of Passaic including 3rd ward section. Have you ever seen the Hillcrest section of Paterson near Totowa..There are pretty houses there too...
And to that OP, what's wrong with minorities....it seems like you have a little problem there 
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08-18-2009, 07:49 AM
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All of them around Teaneck, that area is a dump.
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There's no dumpy areas around Moorestown of course!
Yeah right.
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08-18-2009, 07:50 AM
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Just understand, for me, in terms of North Jersey/NYC metro - Essex Fells, possibly Morristown, Chatham, Short Hills, Madison, Summit, Millburn and maybe a couple others are about the only areas I'd feel OK to relocate to. That's about it.
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That's it? Really? You obviously don't know North Jersey too well.
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