NEW JERSEY, after ALOT of research here is the bad town list

[elflord1973]

Originally Posted by CaptainNJ

im not referring to everyone either. however, i say something using the word "black" and automatically im referring to every single one.

the blacks who have appeared in this thread

nothing about "some of" or any reference to particulars. I read this as referring at least to all of them that posted.

they say "white" and its ok because they are only talking about the particular whites that they dont like (even though probably 80%+ of whites feel that way).

I don't see you putting forth a comparable cite. I just see you making vague references to "they". "They" this, and "they" that. You make poorly thought out generalizations in the same sentence as you deny precisely that.

As for the 80% that "probably" feel that way -- speculation on your part (and what does "that way" mean anyway ?)

[CaptainNJ]

Originally Posted by elflord1973

the blacks who have appeared in this thread

nothing about "some of" or any reference to particulars. I read this as referring at least to all of them that posted.

I don't see you putting forth a comparable cite. I just see you making vague references to "they". "They" this, and "they" that. You make poorly thought out generalizations in the same sentence as you deny precisely that.

As for the 80% that "probably" feel that way -- speculation on your part (and what does "that way" mean anyway ?)

haha so my "blanket statement" is when i was talking about the 2 or 3 people i believe were blacks in this thread that made potentially racist statements. come on. i thought you were referring to black people in general, not the 2 or 3 in this thread. ill admit, i may be wrong about those people in this thread (i doubt it) but that wasnt a huge assumption i was making so lets not get carried away.

what do you mean, i just make vague references to "they?" its very clear that i was referring to blacks in general there. i was responding directly to your statement that i wouldnt welcome blacks into my neighborhood. what kind of silly game is this where you pretend to not understand who i am referring to when i said "they?"

yes, its speculation. thats why i used the word "probably." that clearly designates that i am guessing (speculating) and not sure of it as a fact. why are you playing games? by "that way" im referring back to the statements of the "alleged" blacks in this thread where they talk of how white people are afraid to go into certain areas like irvington, newark, etc. you say they are only referring to certain whites, im saying that the majority of whites dont feel comfortable walking around newark or irvington.

[Obrero]

Originally Posted by elflord1973

I don't think his comment is completely unfounded. Every time an urban area or a suburb with a large African American population is mentioned, there are a bunch of naysayers who pile on. This is not only true of high crime areas like downtown Newark, but also desirable urban neighborhoods that are anything less than homogeneous like downtown Jersey City and diverse suburbs like Teaneck.

There are people on this board who simply don't want to live near people who aren't like them.

This thread has certainly been effective in bringing some of them out of the woodwork. The originator's complete ignorance of elementary statistical concepts, combined with the fact that his "research" relies for the most part on statistics and not first hand experience, leads him to make many laughable claims about allegedly "dangerous" cities, and there is a tribe of dull-witted suburban bigots that is all too happy to cheer him on.

Please, one can't even say Irvington is a bad place to live without being called a racist. Not wanting to live in Irvington, Newark, Camden, Paterson has NOTHING TO DO with not wanting to live with people who are a different color to me. It has to do with not wanting to live with people who may do harm to me or my family, be they black, white, red or yellow.

[elflord1973]

Originally Posted by UKOK

Please, one can't even say Irvington is a bad place to live without being called a racist. Not wanting to live in Irvington, Newark, Camden, Paterson has NOTHING TO DO with not wanting to live with people who are a different color to me. It has to do with not wanting to live with people who may do harm to me or my family, be they black, white, red or yellow.

Fine, but I hope that you don't believe that what you just posted is a rebuttal of anything that I stated.

[elflord1973]

Originally Posted by CaptainNJ

haha so my "blanket statement" is when i was talking about the 2 or 3 people i believe were blacks in this thread that made potentially racist statements. come on. i thought you were referring to black people in general, not the 2 or 3 in this thread. ill admit, i may be wrong about those people in this thread (i doubt it) but that wasnt a huge assumption i was making so lets not get carried away.

Since you didn't say, it really isn't all that clear. What is clear is that you don't like black people very much. (There's a word for people like this ... hmmm )

what do you mean, i just make vague references to "they?" its very clear that i was referring to blacks in general there.

I'm talking about this:

they say "white" and its ok because they are only talking about the particular whites that they dont like

I take it you were talking about "the black people" in this thread. Anyway, it really isn't clear precisely what you're complaining about since you don't quote anyone. But it is clear you don't like black people. Cos you're you know, one of those people who don't like people who don't look like them ... what's the word for that again ?

[CaptainNJ]

Originally Posted by elflord1973

Since you didn't say, it really isn't all that clear. What is clear is that you don't like black people very much. (There's a word for people like this ... hmmm )

I'm talking about this:

they say "white" and its ok because they are only talking about the particular whites that they dont like

I take it you were talking about "the black people" in this thread. Anyway, it really isn't clear precisely what you're complaining about since you don't quote anyone. But it is clear you don't like black people. Cos you're you know, one of those people who don't like people who don't look like them ... what's the word for that again ?

it was clear. you understood it from the beginning.

why not just say it? if anyone points out that these "bad areas" seem to have a large % of blacks that person must immediately be called a racist and everything he says should be ignored. i get along great with blacks when i deal with them, but you will never find me walking along the sidewalks of irvington or newark.

[tceffo]

I'm on Union Ave Totowa> still OK- - - - Paterson,s 4th ward a mile away ,should rank a 6 !!!

[contachster]

Originally Posted by CaptainNJ

im not referring to everyone either. however, i say something using the word "black" and automatically im referring to every single one. they say "white" and its ok because they are only talking about the particular whites that they dont like (even though probably 80%+ of whites feel that way).

what do you mean by that? im not sure what kind of person you picture but im not some obnoxious guy with a tony soprano accident that tells black people to stay out of my neighborhood. i have a black family across the street from me. i am fine with them. however, they can do some damage to a neighborhood so you have to consider that.

You said that you are fine with the black family across the street from you. What kind of "damage" are you refering to?

[elflord1973]

Originally Posted by CaptainNJ

it was clear. you understood it from the beginning.

I didn't understand particularly who or what comment you were referring to, because I don't know which posters are black (I don't have a black-dar), and you didn't cite anything. You just took a vague swipe at "the black people".

I did understand however, both from this and your posting history, that you don't like black people very much.

why not just say it? if anyone points out that these "bad areas" seem to have a large % of blacks that person must immediately be called a racist and everything he says should be ignored.

I'm all for calling a spade a spade. I called East Orange a "ghetto" in one post. So no, I don't have anything against this specifically

[tahiti]

enough. take it somewhere else.