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Old 06-09-2009, 03:44 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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hey, next time you accuse someone of taking a thread off topic, look towards yourself, understood?

http://www.city-data.com/forum/8913155-post4.html

http://www.city-data.com/forum/new-j...ml#post9124409

i could find many more. so stop playing thread police.

Both of those posts were relevant to the OP asking about considering moving to New Jersey........yes.......they pointed out negative points about this state but I wasn't aware that City Data Forum was censored and we were only allowed to post positive facts. Is this all you have to do all day long .....finding my negative posts about New Jersey and whining about them ?
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Old 06-09-2009, 03:50 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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What people like FlyersFan seem to never talk about is all the people and young professionals moving in to New Jersey daily for better opportunities.
Those chosing to stay in New Jersey had better hope for new arrivals to help bear the weight of this states tax burden........
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Old 06-09-2009, 04:00 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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But to harp so much on why you hate NJ and yet still live here, I just don't get it.
As I have stated before, like many who wish they could just pick up and leave, I can't due to operating my own business which I am currently negotiating to sell......there are many others to be sure that are tied to New Jersey short term and long term for various reasons thats makes it impossible for them to leave on short notice but that doesn't mean they enjoy living in a corrupt state with the highest property taxes in the nation.....add to that number those that are having financial troubles that want to leave but are fearful of having to start a new life somewhere else
and the unknown. I have noted posts on here from those stating that they feel financially sound but I would tell you that those are in the minority in this state and country....many are living from paycheck to paycheck and are one illness away from losing everything......many have lived here all their lives and can't afford to retire here even if they wanted to.
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Old 06-09-2009, 04:02 PM
 
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What people like FlyersFan seem to never talk about is all the people and young professionals moving in to New Jersey daily for better opportunities.
If you look at the report I posted earlier in the thread, and actually read it, you'll find that your statement isn't as true as you make it sound. NJ is experiencing a net outflow of people, which is getting larger every year (it nearly tripled from 2002-2006). Of those moving into NJ, the majority are actually coming from overseas- not young people from other states looking for better opportunities.

There's also data in that report showing that those moving into NJ from certain states have much lower per capita incomes than those leaving NJ for those same states. While that doesn't support the "rich people are leaving in droves" statement, it does show that higher paid folks are leaving, and lower paid folks are moving in- not generally a good trend, especially in a high COL state. The state lost a total of almost $2 billion of adjusted gross income, which means that the state as a whole is losing the "better opportunities" you're talking about.
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Old 06-09-2009, 04:04 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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We're not getting choked, paying off the mortgage at an accelerated rate, take 3+ vacations a year, saving for college and retirement. Yup, we're really strapped.
You are in a very small minority in this state (or anywhere) who can say that......you should be thankful for your good fortune instead of gloating about it on CityData.
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Old 06-09-2009, 04:08 PM
 
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Those chosing to stay in New Jersey had better hope for new arrivals to help bear the weight of this states tax burden........
We will be fine, but thanks for your concern.

You should worry about what is happening in your future state of Florida, best of luck to you on the move:

Budget crisis getting worse, Florida lawmakers are told - Florida - MiamiHerald.com (http://www.miamiherald.com/569/story/839178.html - broken link)
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Old 06-09-2009, 04:21 PM
 
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Thank you.

Yeah, the property taxes and cost of living are expensive

However, NJ should be expensive because of access to Philly, NYC, Atlantic City and the whole state is covered with beaches. Access to entertiainment is not free.

The salaries produced in the above link offset the cost of living
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Old 06-09-2009, 04:24 PM
 
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We will be fine, but thanks for your concern.

You should worry about what is happening in your future state of Florida, best of luck to you on the move:

I will be just fine thank you.......enjoy your short summers here buying beach tags for the right to sit on the hospital waste strewn beaches......I will have 1200 miles of FREE beach to chose from ALL year long......perhaps a red tide or two but at least I won't be picking used hypodermics out of my feet and wondering why I was foolish enough to pay to do it !!!
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Old 06-09-2009, 04:28 PM
 
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I will be just fine thank you.......enjoy your short summers here buying beach tags for the right to sit on the hospital waste strewn beaches......I will have 1200 miles of FREE beach to chose from ALL year long......perhaps a red tide or two but at least I won't be picking used hypodermics out of my feet and wondering why I was foolish enough to pay to do it !!!
Look man. You like Florida. Dailyjournalist does not

Big deal you save 10 dollars on a beach ticket.

By moving to Florida you are going to be surrounded by rednecks, people that think trailers are high class, lack of culture, humidity nonstop (living in a oven), horrible nightlife, lack of shopping, etc

I hate anything that is in Florida except for Miami. If you like Florida then move there. But, you need to realize that not everyone has a obsession with it like you do
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Old 06-09-2009, 04:31 PM
 
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I will be just fine thank you.......enjoy your short summers here buying beach tags for the right to sit on the hospital waste strewn beaches......I will have 1200 miles of FREE beach to chose from ALL year long......perhaps a red tide or two but at least I won't be picking used hypodermics out of my feet and wondering why I was foolish enough to pay to do it !!!
I think you should do a little more research. Florida beachs are not free from contamination, you may have to swim with human, animal, agricultural and industrial waste, as well as leaked motor oil and gasoline.
Beach Contamination: Swimmers Beware - Gainesville Community Blogs (http://newsies.gainesville.com/default.asp?item=2192728 - broken link)

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