Is New Jersey Really that Horrible? (buyers, cost, garage)

[BPerone201]

Originally Posted by gradstudent77

NJ shouldn't regret it; those refineries might as well have JOBS written all over them in big painted letters. Ditto for the port and the skyscrapers you pass on the turnpike.

I know that.. I didn't say they shouldn't have them completely removed, I said putting them on one of the most well traveled roads in the biggest metro America is what gives NJ one of the worst stereotypes in The USA (the armpit of the country)
Wouldn't want my dad losing his job

I'm not an expert, and I really wasn't taking this all that serious like some people are taking it, but maybe a less popular area of North Jersey would of been a better spot.......or they should of stuffed in into Long Island, I mean NYC and their trash is in their state, not ours

[KathyA11]

Originally Posted by BPerone201

I know that.. I didn't say they shouldn't have them completely removed, I said putting them on one of the most well traveled roads in the biggest metro America is what gives NJ one of the worst stereotypes in The USA (the armpit of the country)
Wouldn't want my dad losing his job

I'm not an expert, and I really wasn't taking this all that serious like some people are taking it, but maybe a less popular area of North Jersey would of been a better spot.......or they should of stuffed in into Long Island, I mean NYC and their trash is in their state, not ours

Um...the refineries were there before the Turnpike existed....

And if people see that very short stretch of NJ as representing the entire state, well, that doesn't say much for them, now, does it?

[The Michigan Man]

Originally Posted by AnesthesiaMD

That's the great thing about America. You are free to stay in those "other states" where you are happier.

And it would be great in NJ if people could choose to go to the type of gas stations that they want.

[DailyJournalist]

Originally Posted by The Michigan Man

And it would be great in NJ if people could choose to go to the type of gas stations that they want.

I rather keep it full service, the way it should be!

[BrianH1970]

Originally Posted by Rapture

On the other hand, since moving to SC I never wait in line and get in and out very quick when I do it myself.

I remember days when every pump was full and you'd have one or two guys running around capping people off, taking their credit cards, making change, all while a line in back grew. I have never waited for a pump at the Amaco I go to in Charlotte and it just takes me the amount of time to fill the tank and get my receipt. I don't think I've spent much more than two minutes from pull in to drive off.

[AnesthesiaMD]

Originally Posted by The Michigan Man

And it would be great in NJ if people could choose to go to the type of gas stations that they want.

Only if the majority of people WANT that choice.

[AnesthesiaMD]

Originally Posted by elflord1973

The gas station owner needs to be compensated for his labor costs. If the supplier figures out that the owner's labor costs are lower because he is no longer required to provide the same level of service, then he has the option to require that the gas station owner charges a little less.

The fact that the supplier does not directly bear the costs of labor might add some latency to the impact of labor costs on prices at the pump, but ultimately labor costs are a factor that affects pricing.

Perhaps, or perhaps the supplier couldn't care less. Either way you will have a hard time convincing me that they will be passing on any savings to the consumer. At one time, all states had only full serve. Now, the states I have travelled and lived hardly have any full service pumps, and the ones that ARE there are a lot more money than the self service pumps. Personally, I like it the way it is in NJ.

[The Michigan Man]

Originally Posted by AnesthesiaMD

Only if the majority of people WANT that choice.

Or, we could let the people choose. Nah, can't have that. We gotta let the government babysit us.

You want full-service stations, I want the option for self-service stations. If you're so confident that most NJ residents want full-service, you have nothing to worry about. Don't be afraid of choice.

[AnesthesiaMD]

Originally Posted by The Michigan Man

Or, we could let the people choose. Nah, can't have that. We gotta let the government babysit us.

You want full-service stations, I want the option for self-service stations. If you're so confident that most NJ residents want full-service, you have nothing to worry about. Don't be afraid of choice.

Reading this makes me believe that you have not been paying attention to anything I have been saying. The people rarely get what they want, CORPORATIONS DO. THAT is what I am afraid of. I am afraid that people will be charged MORE for the choice of a service they are already getting. But again, I feel like I'm going around in circles here.

If you are suggesting a vote on whether or not to allow the choice of full service gas stations, I would have no problem with that. In fact, I would welcome it.

[The Michigan Man]

Originally Posted by AnesthesiaMD

Reading this makes me believe that you have not been paying attention to anything I have been saying. The people rarely get what they want, CORPORATIONS DO. THAT is what I am afraid of. I am afraid that people will be charged MORE for the choice of a service they are already getting. But again, I feel like I'm going around in circles here.

If you are suggesting a vote on whether or not to allow the choice of full service gas stations, I would have no problem with that. In fact, I would welcome it.

People vote with their dollars, you know that right? That's more democratic than letting the corrupt NJ politicians babysit us. You're afraid of choice, and you shouldn't be. We've prospered as much as we have because of choice, not because we let our politicians think for us and micro-manage the economy. When this happens, people rarely get what they want, POLITICIANS DO.