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Old 06-17-2009, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Redneckville, NJ
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Rt. 31 from CR 513 in Clinton to Rt. 57 in Washington.
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Old 06-17-2009, 05:51 AM
 
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The answer to traffic jams is mass transit, not more lanes or roads.
To Picatinny?
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Old 06-17-2009, 06:02 AM
 
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I think parts of Rt 1 could really use it. There is a lot of road work going on near Menlo Park Mall. But it's been ongoing for years I feel like, and I still don't see a third lane. Not quite sure exactly what they're doing there.

This is done and all lanes are open, it'f really nice.
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Old 06-17-2009, 06:23 AM
 
Location: North Jersey
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Rte 15 South from Sparta all the way to where you get on 80
Problem is in Jefferson there is no where to put another lane
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Old 06-17-2009, 06:27 AM
 
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rt 24 isnt bad at non rush hour times.

rt 23 is bad espeically in sussex county when its only one lane for each direction.
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Old 06-17-2009, 06:27 AM
 
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The answer to traffic jams is mass transit, not more lanes or roads.
Mass transit can't do it alone. A mixture of both is needed but mass transit should be the leader of the two.

76 in Philly all the way out to King of Prussia is a total MESS and needs fixing.

Rt. 70 goes in and out of 3 lanes from 73 to Camden. Ideally you would keep the 3 lanes consistent and that woudl help a lot for that road.

Rt 73. They are fixing the 70/73 circle finally but they JUST started the work there.
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Old 06-17-2009, 08:02 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Mass transit can't do it alone.
agreed, if for no other reason than scheduling. just as is the case with carpooling/vanpooling, people are just too busy to have a rigid schedule constrain their movement.


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A mixture of both is needed, but mass transit should be the leader of the two.
NJ is, for lack of a better word, decentralized. there are a few biggish employment centers, but mass transit will never account for more than 50% of the transportation methods chosen by commuters/travellers.
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Old 06-17-2009, 08:03 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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captne76 , thank you for the NJDOT links... very interesting !
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Splitting time between Dayton, NJ and Needmore, PA
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I think parts of Rt 1 could really use it. There is a lot of road work going on near Menlo Park Mall. But it's been ongoing for years I feel like, and I still don't see a third lane. Not quite sure exactly what they're doing there.
As someone else said, this is now finished. It's actually quite nice to drive through there.

I really wish DOT would

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The answer to traffic jams is mass transit, not more lanes or roads.
Mass transit works in cities, not suburbia.

Regional train stations and bus terminals still require feeder roads into and out of them for parking of cars. See the one down on Rte. 130 just above Cranbury for a reality check.

And for all the grandiose talk about mass transit, how come the MOM line was killed off? Especially when the tracks are already in place because there used to be such a line back in the 20's through the 50's.



My pet peeves are Route 1 through South Brunswick and the entire length of Route 130.

Route 1

I understand the powers that be in the 70's and 80's wanted to control growth in South Brunswick along Route 1 by keeping the artery a two-lane road on each side with minial third lanes for turn offs at certain intersections. But this has become a major hazard for local residents. Trucks and cars alike are using those third lanes at the lights to try to get ahead of the packs.

I know they are doing the feasiblity study now to enlarge the road to three lanes each side all the way through. I hope they recognize that the need is very present for an overpass at Ridge Road, New Road, and Route 522 and a system of local and express lanes similar to what is being finished with Route 18 throughout the area.

Route 130

How about actually rebuilding Route 130 from North Brunswick High School to Camden? The road surface is atrocious with years of hotpatch being used on concrete.

How about closing off those damn median cuts and instituting a service road that would get local residents onto the highway reasonably and get rid of most of the traffic lights so 130 could really be a support route for those stuck on the NJ Turnpike and Route 1.

How about getting rid of the Hightstown Circle and instituting some management overpasses at the larger intersections so there can be legitimate spaces for U-turns?


Ah, we can dream...
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:33 PM
 
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A quote I heard some time ago . . . Adding additional lanes to roads is like buying bigger clothes for an obese person. It solves nothing and doesn't address the real problem.
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