NJ Suburbs and State police need to be cut by 50% (insurance, employment)

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by Dingo99

It is unique for every town... why dont you give some input on your own here...

But for Ramsey, 15-18 officers would be more then enough.

why? I'm not the one declaring all suburban police forces and state police be cut 50%. i assumed you put some thought into it which made you arrive at this number and I was curious to your thought patterns.

[njkate]

Originally Posted by tahiti

thank you kate!

Like I said in another thread....thank god for cops & teachers, if not for them we wouldn't have anything to moan about...lol

[njkate]

Originally Posted by CaptainNJ

cops are worthless. people are brainwashed to believe cops protect them. cops dont come until after the trouble is over and they just write a report. usually they are so pissed that they had to cut their 2 hour coffee break short that they write a crappy report anyway.

Well the next time we have an ice storm out there as you sit in your warm cozy house remember there are cops out there responding to accidents, helping victims
Next time you sit down for Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner with your family remember there are cops out there who can't be with theirs.

I give kudos to cops, nurses, hospital employees, firemen who give up holidays with their families to do what's needed.

I also find most, not all, but a fairly good majority of people who have an attitude that all cops are horrible....well lets just say they tend to be people who have a problem obeying the law, no matter how minor and then rant on because they were caught

[njkate]

I live like Steve Morse in Jefferson Township
We have 39 on the force to cover 24 hours a day 365 days per year.
As of 2009 we have a population of 21,737 people
The township also encompasses 40.6 square miles and 2.4 square miles of water

I don't think we have to many in fact we could use a few more

[Dingo99]

Originally Posted by njkate

3 shifts per day 365 days per year...cops on vacation, out sick,
did you happen to take any of that into account?

18x40= 720 man hours per week

24x7= 168 hours per week


So you have 4-5 officers working at a time under that plan. You would obviously have more working at peak times, and less at like 3 AM.

[CaptainNJ]

Originally Posted by njkate

Well the next time we have an ice storm out there as you sit in your warm cozy house remember there are cops out there responding to accidents, helping victims
Next time you sit down for Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner with your family remember there are cops out there who can't be with theirs.

I give kudos to cops, nurses, hospital employees, firemen who give up holidays with their families to do what's needed.

I also find most, not all, but a fairly good majority of people who have an attitude that all cops are horrible....well lets just say they tend to be people who have a problem obeying the law, no matter how minor and then rant on because they were caught

what is with all this garbage about working when its snowing or during holidays? thats what people do in order to earn money. we all have to work to earn money, i dont feel sorry for someone because they dont have the best hours in the world. i dont excuse abuse of power and being overall worthless because cops may have to sit in their cars doing nothing during the snow and god forbid they actually have to help someone sometimes.

your next paragraph is just propaganda. thats what they want you to think so you dont question their authority. "those who have a problem must have it because they are up to no good." i am a perfect citizen. i am the last person anyone has to worry about. i know that cops are worthless.

[mike0421]

Originally Posted by njkate

I live like Steve Morse in Jefferson Township
We have 39 on the force to cover 24 hours a day 365 days per year.
As of 2009 we have a population of 21,737 people
The township also encompasses 40.6 square miles and 2.4 square miles of water

I don't think we have to many in fact we could use a few more

I think the angst should be directed at other areas of municipal government. For instance, does every single town in Northern NJ need a municipal library? Why not regionalize the library system, as it is in South Jersey? Beyond that, non-law enforcement municipal employees can be reduced by making reductions in force. I am thinking specifically by department. Recreation, health department, enginnering, public works, etc. Each department has many employees that can be reduced through attrition. The problem is there is a public sector workers union entrenched in many of these towns to see fit that hiring freezes aren't allowed to happen, or, at the very least, if there is a retired worker, that worker is replaced by another one, instead of having the position dissolved. The union's strength relies upon rank and file.

[njkate]

Originally Posted by Dingo99

18x40= 680 man hours per week

24x7= 168 hours per week


So you have 4-5 officers working at a time under that plan. You would obviously have more working at peak times, and less at like 3 AM.

It works where I live and we have 39
We also are 40 square miles divided by Rte 15
so usually 2 on one side 2 on the other and supervisors

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by mike0421

I think the angst should be directed at other areas of municipal government. For instance, does every single town in Northern NJ need a municipal library? Why not regionalize the library system, as it is in South Jersey? Beyond that, non-law enforcement municipal employees can be reduced by making reductions in force. I am thinking specifically by department. Recreation, health department, enginnering, public works, etc. Each department has many employees that can be reduced through attrition. The problem is there is a public sector workers union entrenched in many of these towns to see fit that hiring freezes aren't allowed to happen, or, at the very least, if there is a retired worker, that worker is replaced by another one, instead of having the position dissolved. The union's strength relies upon rank and file.

can you expand upon this? do you mean "physical" libraries or you mean not having 100 copies of the same material in each physical location? Most Morris County "physical" libraries are members of MAIN - which is a network of county libraries where you can access materials from other branches, and they'll deliver it to your local branch.

[CaptainNJ]

i dont really see the value in having any libraries.