NJ Suburbs and State police need to be cut by 50% (Paramus: crime rate, home)

[Irish Eyes]

I like having my physical library and I like that I can walk to it. So again - I'm happy with the services I'm getting for the money I'm paying. I was not before and that's why I moved!

[gradstudent77]

Originally Posted by CaptainNJ

i dont really see the value in having any libraries.

I developed a lot of the skills that make me a valuable member of society in a public library. I could be wrong about this because I am not going to look up the numbers, but I'd bet the costs related to operation of a municipal library are relatively modest compared to the entirety of most towns' budgets.

[JohnnyUtah]

this is New Jersey, most public agencies and their unions aren't there to serve the people, their purpose is to maintain the status quo and ensure that members of the old boy's club and their relatives are able to have steady, lucrative employment for generations to come...you think the average public servant was hired on their merits? get real...and get used to it, its the way of life here in this state

[NJ07035]

Originally Posted by Dingo99

Its gotten out of hand. They dont even do there jobs anymore. They spend more time setting up seat belt check points and sitting there using a radar gun then anything else.

NJ has the second highest amount of police officers per capita.

I have no problems with Citys having a lot of police, but does a middle class town of 15,000 really need 30 police officers? It's ridiculous. cant drive down the street for 5 minutes without seeing a cop.

Found the perfect town for you:
http://www.city-data.com/city/Dawson-Texas.html

Full-time police employees - 1

[FlyersFan]

Originally Posted by tahiti

what would be your formula (ratio of cops/citizens -vs- crime rate) and how much do you believe they should make?

methinks someone just got a speeding ticket.

Its not about how much a police officer makes......god knows you can't pay someone enough to get shot at......its about how much it costs to run an entire individual police force......you need enough men for 3 shifts each day.....the cost of the police building, the staff running the building.....switchboard operators..... a police car fleet......special vehicles and special equipment.....continuing training programs......a police car maintenance building and mechanics.......all their medical benifits......all their pensions......insurance polices.....of course the special "Dare" police car.....the bottom line is little towns can't afford this......its far cheaper to consolidate and go the state police.

[angerinthenation]

I didn't know that. Maybe that explains why there's a damn dunkin donuts almost on every corner. There's not ONE town in Jersey that doesn't have a Dunkin Donuts. Now it all makes sense.

[The Michigan Man]

Originally Posted by JohnnyUtah

this is New Jersey, most public agencies and their unions aren't there to serve the people, their purpose is to maintain the status quo and ensure that members of the old boy's club and their relatives are able to have steady, lucrative employment for generations to come...you think the average public servant was hired on their merits? get real...and get used to it, its the way of life here in this state

Why do you think public budgets are so high? If you don't "justify" things to spend taxpayer dollars on, the budget will be cut next year. The incentives are totally against the taxpayers who are supposed to be receiving a "public benefit" in the first place. We serve them, not vice versa.

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

Its not about how much a police officer makes......god knows you can't pay someone enough to get shot at......its about how much it costs to run an entire individual police force......you need enough men for 3 shifts each day.....the cost of the police building, the staff running the building.....switchboard operators..... a police car fleet......special vehicles and special equipment.....continuing training programs......a police car maintenance building and mechanics.......all their medical benifits......all their pensions......insurance polices.....of course the special "Dare" police car.....the bottom line is little towns can't afford this......its far cheaper to consolidate and go the state police.

which he wants to cut 50% also.

not sure why you're lecturing me, he's the one with the idea and the one saying they make too much.

[Dingo99]

Originally Posted by tahiti

which he wants to cut 50% also.

not sure why you're lecturing me, he's the one with the idea and the one saying they make too much.

i didnt say that they make too much... I said that there are too many police officers. I think $100,000 a year plus benefits before even considering OT is a bit much, but i have no real problem with how much they make. dont put words in my mouth

[FlyersFan]

Originally Posted by tahiti

which he wants to cut 50% also.

not sure why you're lecturing me, he's the one with the idea and the one saying they make too much.

Sorry....it wasn't directed at you......I only used your post to insert my thoughts as it asked about salary and it seemed a good place to insert why it wasn't just an officers salary.....