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Unread 09-16-2009, 07:44 AM
 
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people with that mindset don't deserve to have the privelege of voting...good grief
I don't have that mindset, but politics is a very visual game. It's about looks and charisma, and a general feeling, of "Do I like this guy (or gal)?" And sorry to say, weight plays into that. It shouldn't, but it does.

It's too late now, but he could have done himself a favor by dropping some weight this spring and summer.

All I have to say, is look at Mike Huckabee. He ascended to the national stage, and now to a lucrative TV deal, after losing the weight. That would have never happened at his previous high weight.
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Unread 09-16-2009, 07:46 AM
 
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I don't wish NJ was like it was back in the day, when my parents weren't able to buy a house until they were in their mid-40's.
I think people now also have an idea that we all can live in the best towns with a 4 br center hall colonial. And we can't. Simple supply and demand.

I don't know about y'all, but my parents bought a small, sh*tty house in a very average town because that's what they could afford and they stayed there forever and still made money on it. And we were just fine.

Now we all have grandiose ideas about ourselves.
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Unread 09-16-2009, 08:22 AM
 
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I don't have that mindset, but politics is a very visual game. It's about looks and charisma, and a general feeling, of "Do I like this guy (or gal)?" And sorry to say, weight plays into that. It shouldn't, but it does.

It's too late now, but he could have done himself a favor by dropping some weight this spring and summer.

All I have to say, is look at Mike Huckabee. He ascended to the national stage, and now to a lucrative TV deal, after losing the weight. That would have never happened at his previous high weight.
I hear what you are saying and unfortunately it's more then likely to a degree true....no wonder the state and the country is in the shape it's in

I don't know what the answer is, I can't stand that bearded clown, at first I was very pro Christie but he hasn't STATED anywhere yet anything of substance on what he plans on doing.
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Unread 09-16-2009, 08:52 AM
 
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I hear what you are saying and unfortunately it's more then likely to a degree true....no wonder the state and the country is in the shape it's in

I don't know what the answer is, I can't stand that bearded clown, at first I was very pro Christie but he hasn't STATED anywhere yet anything of substance on what he plans on doing.

See, that is what I hate about politics today. AND the fact that so many SAY they hate it too, but do not have the patience to sit around and listen when someone actually starts TELLING them what they will do.

They all want to hear "we will give you everything you want and more and you will not have to pay for it". So whenever ANY politician says "lower taxes" they earn a negative in my book.

Pay off the debts first, THEN worry about the income. How much more could we be doing with just the interest on the debt?
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Unread 09-16-2009, 08:54 AM
 
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When was this? This is anecdotal evidence.
the 60's. of COURSE it's ancedotal evidence! my point, lost yet again, is that someone's "good old days" were someone else's struggle. my reality was FAR different than "leave it to beaver" yet I've heard countless times about how good times were back then and "if only things can be the way they were". Thanks, but no thanks.
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Unread 09-16-2009, 11:27 AM
 
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I hear what you are saying and unfortunately it's more then likely to a degree true....no wonder the state and the country is in the shape it's in

I don't know what the answer is, I can't stand that bearded clown, at first I was very pro Christie but he hasn't STATED anywhere yet anything of substance on what he plans on doing.
Exactly. Sad but true. I've even noticed on some of the Corzine commercials they seem to be distorting his picture to make Christie look even fatter than he really is.

And what if it was a woman who was that fat running for governor? Can you even imagine?
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Unread 09-16-2009, 12:19 PM
 
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the 60's. of COURSE it's ancedotal evidence! my point, lost yet again, is that someone's "good old days" were someone else's struggle. my reality was FAR different than "leave it to beaver" yet I've heard countless times about how good times were back then and "if only things can be the way they were". Thanks, but no thanks.

Here's the thing. Go out and look in some of the better neighborhoods at buildings that were built in the 40's, 50's and 60's. Compare that to buildings built in the same area today, even before the huge upswing in "quality" for that area.

McMansions are a commonality that everyone seems to think is the norm now, and a few are starting to discover that they either never had the cash to get it in the first place, the money to keep it heated and cooled, or exactly why the place seemed so inexpensive (cheap siding, 1 layer sheetrock walls, cheap windows/linings/insulation).

You look at some of these tiny little bungalows in places where people did not think of having a bed, dresser, computer, TV and who knows what else all in the same room. Rooms looked more like the smaller college dorm rooms (7'x7'. I am not exaggerating here, sad to say). You have a bed, closet and nightstand. That was it.

Living room AND Family room? Nope! Unless you count that musty smelling fake wood paneled basement with the crooked pool table, unfinished wet bar and bowling trophys on the wall (watch your head!).

I think the overall QOL has gone WAY up since I was a kid and we just fail to see it. We all think we have to do better than our parents, and in some cases that is true. But for MANY years and MANY people, you just tried to get to the point where you could afford what your parents worked so hard to get. Their life was your goal, not your starting point.
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Unread 09-16-2009, 01:08 PM
 
Location: 38° 38' 45" N, -90° 20' 08" W
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The latest poll numbers show Christie by 9:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_NJ_915819.pdf (broken link)

I think it was mentioned this poll included Chris Daggett, which it hadn't previously. I am not sure if that is impacting the poll results.
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Unread 09-16-2009, 05:17 PM
 
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Yes.

Try not to make your rhetorical questions so easy to refute MM.
Again, how can you refute it when so many of Obama's policies are an extension of Bush's?
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Unread 09-16-2009, 05:18 PM
 
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the 60's. of COURSE it's ancedotal evidence! my point, lost yet again, is that someone's "good old days" were someone else's struggle. my reality was FAR different than "leave it to beaver" yet I've heard countless times about how good times were back then and "if only things can be the way they were". Thanks, but no thanks.
Again, anecdotal evidence proves little, if anything. Are you really arguing that housing was less affordable then? More people have houses - only they can't afford them because the Fed intervenes in the market when they shouldn't.
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