Wal-Mart Supercenters in NJ (Camden, Freehold: sales, real estate, 2010)

[subwayfan]

Wal-Mart currently has 2 SuperCenters in NJ: in Turnersville and Deptford.

Next year, they'll be crawling up north by opening up in Camden County in Somerdale. I think the Wal-Mart SuperCenter in Somerdale (for 2010) might affect sales considerably at ACME in Voorhees and Genuardi's in Voorhees, leaving one to more underperforming status stores. If Berlin got a SuperCenter, Voorhees would be sandwiched between two SuperCenters.

Wal-Mart has plan for one in Berlin NJ, though according to Berlin zoning....application is on hold; Though Wal-Mart doesn't say it, I think the SuperCenter would replace the existing Berlin store, leaving a Wal-Mart shell behind in Berlin. I've seen it in Elkton, MD.

The plan for Mt.Laurel was shot down a over a couple of years ago.

They say when a Wal-Mart opens up, other businesses close. In certain areas, its main street America type stores, but from what I see in the Jersey burbs, it's sometimes regional chains and other weaker chains (remember Bradlees, Caldor and Clover, or more recently Circuit City-the entire chain) or its individual stores closed by a chain like an underperforming Sears/Kmart or something else.

When Wegmans opened in Cherry Hill and Mt.Laurel, Stop&Shop(Ahold) retreated out of Southern NJ, and atleast one store remains vacant, not being operated by ShopRite.

Did Gloucester County lose any major traditional stores (grocery) when Wal-Mart SuperCenter opened?

Also, are any Wal-Mart SuperCenters planned or possibly in the works for Burlington Co., Central and Northern NJ?

I've heard from one employee that wages at Wal-Mart are comparable to ShopRite. If there is a transfer from union-style grocery stores to Wal-Mart by Wal-Mart Supercenters opening and other stores closing, would employees be worse off? I think one benefit of a local ShopRite, is that the owners, the money stays in the community longer, than heading to Arkansas and to Wall-Street investors, but items are generally cheaper at Wal-Mart.

[CaptainNJ]

my wife believes that the walmart in freehold is going to be turning into a supercenter in the near future. the sooner the better, walmart is awesome. it wont be the most convenient for me to get to from holmdel, but ill definitely stop by the check it out. im sure my mother in law that will be living in manalapan will love it.

[pcity]

Slight nitpick with one of your comments: I think Bradlees, Caldor and Clover closed before Walmart really started to impact the area, so I'm not sure you can really blame Walmart for that. Bradlees and Caldor went bankrupt because of poor managment. Clover was spun off to Kohl's after Clover's parent company (Strawbridge and Clothier) merged with a large national department store company.

Between Bradlees, Caldor, Clover, K-Mart, Ames, and Jamesway, the Philadelphia/South Jersey market was way oversaturated with discount stores in the early 90's. There was bound to be a thinning out at some point.

By the time Walmart arrived in my area outside Philly in the late 90's, all the discount stores were gone, except K-Mart. Target had just started to expand in the area but wasn't really common. The Walmart near me actually opened in a closed Bradlees after they went bankrupt. The only effect it really had on the retail environment around there was to destroy the local K-Mart, which had already been doing badly. That K-Mart limped along for years and finally closed recently.

[h0tmess]

There's actually 2 in Deptford now. I don't know why, or how.

[CaptainNJ]

Originally Posted by h0tmess

There's actually 2 in Deptford now. I don't know why, or how.

god must love the lucky people of deptford.

[subwayfan]

Originally Posted by pcity

Slight nitpick with one of your comments: I think Bradlees, Caldor and Clover closed before Walmart really started to impact the area, so I'm not sure you can really blame Walmart for that. Bradlees and Caldor went bankrupt because of poor managment. Clover was spun off to Kohl's after Clover's parent company (Strawbridge and Clothier) merged with a large national department store company.

Between Bradlees, Caldor, Clover, K-Mart, Ames, and Jamesway, the Philadelphia/South Jersey market was way oversaturated with discount stores in the early 90's. There was bound to be a thinning out at some point.

By the time Walmart arrived in my area outside Philly in the late 90's, all the discount stores were gone, except K-Mart. Target had just started to expand in the area but wasn't really common. The Walmart near me actually opened in a closed Bradlees after they went bankrupt. The only effect it really had on the retail environment around there was to destroy the local K-Mart, which had already been doing badly. That K-Mart limped along for years and finally closed recently.

They weren't gone. Wal-Mart came in the early/mid-90s not late 90s. Target and Kohl's came in the late 90s.

True those stores were weak, overexpanded and in debt but they were in operation when Wal-Mart first came.

I remember off Route 70, there was a relatively short time we had all 4: Clover, Bradlees, K-Mart and Wal-Mart, and Caldor was off 73. Some Bradlees stores remained until the final bankruptcy.

Clover was never spun off to Kohls. Kohl's just picked up some nice real estate. Clover's parent company, the Strawbridge & Clothier dept. store, who was recently acquired by May Dept. Stores, saw the writing in the wall when they knew they wouldn't be able to operate Clover successsfully, i.e. compete against Wal-Mart.

[nsa162]

Walmart just opened a Supercenter in Lanoka harbor (Lacey). The Walmart of 537 in Freehold will be turning into a Supercenter in the near future. I heard there will be one opening in Neptune as well. They will be open 24 hours as well. Couldnt get a straight answer about the one in Howell. They are redecorating it and one employee said it would be a Supercenter and one said it wasnt. I guess we will see.

[BergenCountyJohnny]

Walmart sucks on so many levels that I have absolutely no reason whatsoever to shop at one. If they open any supercenters they will just be eyesores and hellholes like every other walmart supercenter. Walmart can go to hell.

[CaptainNJ]

Originally Posted by BergenCountyJohnny

Walmart sucks on so many levels that I have absolutely no reason whatsoever to shop at one. If they open any supercenters they will just be eyesores and hellholes like every other walmart supercenter. Walmart can go to hell.

if walmart were to die, they would certainly be going to heaven not hell. walmart provides everyday low prices to the common folk. they are awesome.

[BergenCountyJohnny]

Originally Posted by CaptainNJ

if walmart were to die, they would certainly be going to heaven not hell. walmart provides everyday low prices to the common folk. they are awesome.

Their prices are no lower than any other stores. Target has better stuff for the same or less. ShopRite blows away any Walmart grocery store. Initially the prices at Walmart are lower but then they go up.

Walmart has the added effect of destroying competition by "dumping", causing many to lose jobs, while creating crappy jobs. They also support predatory buying. They will hire a domestic supplier for a decent product, and every year insist on a lower price. When the supplier can no longer meet the lower price, they take the approximate design of the item to China and have it produced cheaply as the original supplier goes out of business.

In the end, they don't pass those savings on to the customer. They open up a store with lower prices, dumping their product onto the local market, and once competition is reduced or eliminated, they inflate the prices. I've seen it happen in Tampa, FL.

They suck. They are only good for rednecks and hillbillies to have someplace to hang out at 1:00 in the morning.