Time for a middle class exodus (East Brunswick: short sale, real estate, new home)

[njkate]

Originally Posted by nemmert

Ahhhh, finally... a person of reason in this sea of insanity! If you aren't able to enjoy the standard of living you believe you're entitled to here in NJ, please feel free to seek residence else where... hell... this is a free country, you can even leave the US if you feel the need!

[nemmert]

Originally Posted by njkate

I'm not saying she should. She said NC has many jobs & apts at $600, I said try and find a salary for more then $10 p.h. unless you are a professional....cheaper rents, homes, taxes equate to cheaper salaries.

I'm just sick of the mantra of how cheap the south is..unless you are retired with no mortgage it's all relative

I actually made a post in the ND forums (I was born and raised in ND) pointing out the same thing... people there love to brag about their unemployment right up until you ask them how much a college graduate makes for a salary. You've got kids working at McDonalds and WalMart making 7 bucks an hour and you've got college graduates with $40,000 in student loans making 12 bucks an hour... but HEY! Homes are cheap, well, cheaper.

If eutopia did exist... everyone would have moved there... of course, had everyone moved there, chances are it wouldn't be eutopia any more.

[njkate]

[quote=nemmert;11478004]I actually made a post in the ND forums (I was born and raised in ND) pointing out the same thing... people there love to brag about their unemployment right up until you ask them how much a college graduate makes for a salary. You've got kids working at McDonalds and WalMart making 7 bucks an hour and you've got college graduates with $40,000 in student loans making 12 bucks an hour... but HEY! Homes are cheap, well, cheaper.

If eutopia did exist... everyone would have moved there... of course, had everyone moved there, chances are it wouldn't be eutopia any more.[/QUOTE]


hell if that isn't an understatement

[block911]

Originally Posted by njkate

I said unless you are a professional to me IT would qualify as a professional job
She isn't getting that if she's a secretary or an Ad Min

Not really, IT doesn't need any schooling you just google the skills you need. Thats why foreigners pick it all up so fast

[HeatherLynn822]

Originally Posted by njkate

Yes and try and find salary for more then $10 per hour unless you are a professional..It's all relative
Unless you are able to retire, have a home with no mortgage and a retirement income it's all relative

That job would pay $60+ an hour here....
I know many people in a similar field.

[Nestlequik]

Originally Posted by nemmert

I actually made a post in the ND forums (I was born and raised in ND) pointing out the same thing... people there love to brag about their unemployment right up until you ask them how much a college graduate makes for a salary. You've got kids working at McDonalds and WalMart making 7 bucks an hour and you've got college graduates with $40,000 in student loans making 12 bucks an hour... but HEY! Homes are cheap, well, cheaper.

If eutopia did exist... everyone would have moved there... of course, had everyone moved there, chances are it wouldn't be eutopia any more.

I agree and it's spelled "Utopia."

[Obrero]

Originally Posted by KellyKdros

With Christie in power it is clear that NJ will become more of a state for the rich only and I think we will see the middle class mostly gone by the end of his term. As it is the middle class has been slipping out of NJ since Whitman made life hard on us, now Christie will nail the final nails in the coffin.

I hear that North Carolina has a lot of jobs and I found an apartment for $600 a month with 24-hour fitness center, pool, in a protected and gated complex and it's new with modern appliances. Sure beats my upstairs crappy studio with street parking for $1000 a month.

Lets see if you actually make the move. $10 says you just sit around complaining but don't do anything about it. Posting about finding a cheap apartment on the internet is easy......

[njkate]

Originally Posted by block911

Not really, IT doesn't need any schooling you just google the skills you need. Thats why foreigners pick it all up so fast

Whatever..so the kids coming out of NJ Tech with thousands in student loans are loosing out to foreigners who just GOOGLE their skills

[njkate]

Originally Posted by Obrero

Lets see if you actually make the move. $10 says you just sit around complaining but don't do anything about it. Posting about finding a cheap apartment on the internet is easy......

[TheEmissary]

Originally Posted by KellyKdros

With Christie in power it is clear that NJ will become more of a state for the rich only and I think we will see the middle class mostly gone by the end of his term. As it is the middle class has been slipping out of NJ since Whitman made life hard on us, now Christie will nail the final nails in the coffin.

I hear that North Carolina has a lot of jobs and I found an apartment for $600 a month with 24-hour fitness center, pool, in a protected and gated complex and it's new with modern appliances. Sure beats my upstairs crappy studio with street parking for $1000 a month.

Kelly - I hate to break it to you, but the last time NC seemed to have a lot of jobs was back in 2005! NC's unemployment rate would make NJ seem like it has full employment. Yes, I'm sure that apartment with those amennities does exist, but let me fill in the rest of the picture. The very scary thing about the "supposedly iffy" urban areas of major NC cities is that nothing looks bad. You can't find the typical run-down areas of cities like you can in NJ. It's very deceiving. What looks like something that would pass for middle-class apartment housing in NJ, may actually be a hotbed of crime. Those nice-looking apartment buildings that you ride past in the daylight with the low rent are basically Section 8 villages, which at night turn into shooting galleries and drug bazaars. For $600 a month, you might find most of your neighbors at the pool are Crips, Bloods or MS-13 members. With the easy availability of guns, you might want to peruse the sporting goods area of the nearest Walmart to "assure your safety" in your new digs. A $10 an hour job is "big money" down here. You might have to settle for $7 an hour job, assuming you can find one. Alot of the executives from Bank of America and Wachovia are now donning orange aprons and working at Home Depot for 15% of their former salaries! Or blue aprons at Lowes!

NC is a great place to live if you're retired, as njkate has pointed out in her earlier post. I, fortunately, fall into that category. But for those of you that need jobs after re-locating, NC is not the place to be! Unless you're a doctor....even the nurse's jobs are hard to come by.

Anyone who has told you that jobs in the South are "plentiful", is about as reliable at this point, as someone who would tell you that NJ is "great" because of its low,low taxes!