Time for a middle class exodus (Newark, Paterson: bank owned, sale, salons)

[digi21]

Originally Posted by SweepTheLeg

Is the OP a troll?

What in God's name has Corzine done for the middle class in NJ? Answer: NOTHING.

That's what I'm trying to figure out. What the heck has Corzine done?? How could Christie make it worse? I try to be fair but during the Corzine years, I moved out of an area where my taxes when from $4000 to $7800 in 3 years. My current property taxes are catching up. It's sad. I can't think of a good reason to give Corzine another 4 years.

[block911]

Originally Posted by digi21

That's what I'm trying to figure out. What the heck has Corzine done?? How could Christie make it worse? I try to be fair but during the Corzine years, I moved out of an area where my taxes when from $4000 to $7800 in 3 years. My current property taxes are catching up. It's sad. I can't think of a good reason to give Corzine another 4 years.

From his campaign ads I remember him saying he gave free mamograms?

[mikeym81]

Originally Posted by block911

Show us what department she is in and how many people it takes to do that one task/job I guarantee it will be inefficient and bloated with a team double the size compared to the size of the same type of team at a private company. Private companies have to answer to their bottom line and have to be efficient otherwise they go out of business. While government slob workers can do whatever the heck they want as slow and incorrect as they want to with no incentive to do better and little to no penalty for doing wrong. With Christie here welcome to the real world of competition and no more protecting people just because they sat there for 15 years.





Everyday I have to worry about my private job being outsourced so it makes me work harder and faster, that is what you government workers are afraid of.

She is a pharmacology professor at Rutgers. She has many papers published under her name and is considered one of the best infectious disease pharmacist in the nation. She does this all for 80,000 a year, way less then the 110,000+ your local guy at the CVS makes.

So my "Slob" of a wife kills your whole theory, that government workers are lazy and slow.

Also, if you are so worried about your job... STOP BEING LAZY ON THE INTERNET AND GET TO WORK.

[TheEmissary]

Originally Posted by kev959

You contradict yourself. Your complaining about higher and higher taxes YET somehow a GOV who potentially is going to lower your taxes is the worst thing. Prehaps, a Gov like Corzine who spent money recklessly, raised taxes, borrowed past the hilt could be considered the worst thing.

The only way that taxes will drop in NJ is if Christie could:

1. Void every teacher and municipal employee contract in the state and give them a 30% pay cut.

2. Do away with binding arbitration.

3.Consolidate every town's educational and major municipal services into a county system.

4. Convert the state pension system into a 401K plan.

5. Execute every member of the NJ Legislature.

Christie won't be taking office with a proverbial magic wand in his hand!

What are the chances of any of the above items being implemented?

"Slim to none" is the correct answer.

At the end of his term, everyone that complained about Corzine will be complaining Christie was a do-nothing Governor.

The biggest change this election has brought about is that "R" has replaced "D" after the word Governor. As far as NJ operates, that doesn't mean diddly-squat

[Lucario]

Originally Posted by block911

Not really, IT doesn't need any schooling you just google the skills you need. Thats why foreigners pick it all up so fast

That would make sense if "foreigners" actually picked up the skills. My wife is involved in the IT industry, and some of these H1Bs are so incompetent it's not even funny. They all have the same "qualifications" listed on their resume, and most of them are fictional.

[block911]

Originally Posted by Lucario

That would make sense if "foreigners" actually picked up the skills. My wife is involved in the IT industry, and some of these H1Bs are so incompetent it's not even funny. They all have the same "qualifications" listed on their resume, and most of them are fictional.

I hear you put guess what ,take the train at edison or metropark and you will see it all packed with Indians with H1b's so someone is hiring them in NYC.


Only project mgrs need anytime of college degree in IT otherwise the rest is all technical stuff than can be taught in a week per skill/application/project which is all a company needs which is why they can care less what degrees someone has in IT. The need a DBA, google it all, they need a server admin... google it all. Its the dirty secret of the IT industry all the certs are bs and degrees as well.

[Lusitan]

Originally Posted by KellyKdros

With Christie in power it is clear that NJ will become more of a state for the rich only and I think we will see the middle class mostly gone by the end of his term.

LOL - yeah right, like the multi-millionaire Corzine with his fat cat Wall Street cronies did anything to make NJ better for middle-class people. NJ became even more unaffordable to the average person during Corzine's reign.

[block911]

The problem is exodus to where? I think the only safe haven now is to live in some backwards town where rent is 200 a month and you can get by working at McDonalds as this current economic disaster is not cyclic, it is a structural event that has been under way for the past two decades. The US day of selling worthless paper instruments to the world is over. The world will demand real goods and guess what we lack the opportunity costs to produce those goods more efficiently compared to foreign nations. The US corporations have already invested in new factories overseas, they are not going to scrap those factories until they become obsolete and their opportunity costs are lost as those foreign nations become wealthier and the workers demand higher salaries and their cost of living goes up but that cycle could last 15 years+ as it took the US from the 70's to now to get to this point.


Sadly this is what I'm expecting to happen more and more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091106/...ffice_shooting


Former employee opens fire at Orlando office tower

[block911]

Originally Posted by block911

The problem is exodus to where? I think the only safe haven now is to live in some backwards town where rent is 200 a month and you can get by working at McDonalds as this current economic disaster is not cyclic, it is a structural event that has been under way for the past two decades. The US day of selling worthless paper instruments to the world is over. The world will demand real goods and guess what we lack the opportunity costs to produce those goods more efficiently compared to foreign nations. The US corporations have already invested in new factories overseas, they are not going to scrap those factories until they become obsolete and their opportunity costs are lost as those foreign nations become wealthier and the workers demand higher salaries and their cost of living goes up but that cycle could last 15 years+ as it took the US from the 70's to now to get to this point.


Sadly this is what I'm expecting to happen more and more: Suspect in Orlando office shooting had money woes - Yahoo! News


Former employee opens fire at Orlando office tower

"He said, 'Because I don't have any money. I don't have a job. I don't have anything to eat. When things get better, I'll come see you,'" Holloway said Rodriguez told his son.



If you don't believe me that we can't compete with China's opportunity costs guess again: http://www.wbur.org/2009/11/05/evergreen-china

BOSTON — A solar panel company that received $58 million in state aid to build its factory in Massachusetts is now moving jobs overseas.

We are doomed

[revnsit]

Originally Posted by kev959

You contradict yourself. Your complaining about higher and higher taxes YET somehow a GOV who potentially is going to lower your taxes is the worst thing. Prehaps, a Gov like Corzine who spent money recklessly, raised taxes, borrowed past the hilt could be considered the worst thing.

First time on this particular site but, would someone please explain the theory that Christie is "for the rich". It's Democrats who raise taxes on everything under the sun, so...what do you mean? Do you mean there will be cuts to Welfare recipients?