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Old 01-08-2010, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Cape Coral Fl /Randolph NJ
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To a degree I think it will hurt. Mt Airy & Sands are a lot closer to those who reside in Northern Jersey, no more long GSP rides especially in the summer. Even for New Yorkers..it's a straight run out 80 west

As far as Foxwoods/Mohegan Sun, good lord have you ever checked the room rates there???
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Northern NJ
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To a degree I think it will hurt. Mt Airy & Sands are a lot closer to those who reside in Northern Jersey, no more long GSP rides especially in the summer. Even for New Yorkers..it's a straight run out 80 west

As far as Foxwoods/Mohegan Sun, good lord have you ever checked the room rates there???
Oddly, the legislation is only allowing 250 tables for a large casino and 50 tables for a small one.

This is unbelievably typical. Allowing the business and then telling them how to run it.

If the state wants to make the most money, which of course they do, then just license the activity and let the business decide the correct amount of tables to maximize profit.

How unbelievably heavy handed and stupid.

Now I wonder if I am going to go to Mt. Airy do I have to get on a waiting list to play some poker?

If that's the case, AC will not be hurt.
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:11 AM
 
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I disagree with comments about the beach and boardwalk. They have really been trying to make it nicer. Many of the casinos now have private beach areas with lounge chairs, cabanas, and people to fetch drinks for you. The beach bars are great, they are my favorite place to go out in the summer. Standing at the beach bar at trump at night, with the palm trees and the music and looking back at the lights of the city, it looks gorgeous and makes you feel like you're really at a vacation destination. The boardwalk is undergoing a renovation, all the storefronts are being refaced to look like the AC from the 20's, and the junk stores are little by little being replaced with high end stores. Atlantic City has an uphill task because there are so many homeless there and so much poverty, but I think their efforts have made a big difference already. Just look at the difference made with Ocean One mall, which was a dump, and now is the Pier at Caesar's, with the great free water show, great restaurants and great stores. Did you know they have chocolate covered Twinkies there? That alone makes it worth the drive, lol. Look at the outlets at the Walk, what a boon that was! They should have done this 20 years ago, but back then they didn't care what it was like outside the casinos, now they know they need to whole city to appeal to tourists and have made great strides IMO. This is one jersey-ite who does not see it as a black hole, but a place with tons to offer and hopefully gets the chance to continue to evolve.

P.S. the $2.00 games are starting at Resorts. Stay till night and go to Boogie Nights afterward, the best new club to open in the past 5 years!
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Cape Coral Fl /Randolph NJ
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I disagree with comments about the beach and boardwalk. They have really been trying to make it nicer. Many of the casinos now have private beach areas with lounge chairs, cabanas, and people to fetch drinks for you. The beach bars are great, they are my favorite place to go out in the summer. Standing at the beach bar at trump at night, with the palm trees and the music and looking back at the lights of the city, it looks gorgeous and makes you feel like you're really at a vacation destination. The boardwalk is undergoing a renovation, all the storefronts are being refaced to look like the AC from the 20's, and the junk stores are little by little being replaced with high end stores. Atlantic City has an uphill task because there are so many homeless there and so much poverty, but I think their efforts have made a big difference already. Just look at the difference made with Ocean One mall, which was a dump, and now is the Pier at Caesar's, with the great free water show, great restaurants and great stores. Did you know they have chocolate covered Twinkies there? That alone makes it worth the drive, lol. Look at the outlets at the Walk, what a boon that was! They should have done this 20 years ago, but back then they didn't care what it was like outside the casinos, now they know they need to whole city to appeal to tourists and have made great strides IMO. This is one jersey-ite who does not see it as a black hole, but a place with tons to offer and hopefully gets the chance to continue to evolve.

P.S. the $2.00 games are starting at Resorts. Stay till night and go to Boogie Nights afterward, the best new club to open in the past 5 years!
Hmmm that is my husbands favorite casino in AC, I'll have to tell him As $2.00 is about my speed so I usually will not go when he does
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:42 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I disagree with comments about the beach and boardwalk. They have really been trying to make it nicer. Many of the casinos now have private beach areas with lounge chairs, cabanas, and people to fetch drinks for you. The beach bars are great, they are my favorite place to go out in the summer. Standing at the beach bar at trump at night, with the palm trees and the music and looking back at the lights of the city, it looks gorgeous and makes you feel like you're really at a vacation destination. The boardwalk is undergoing a renovation, all the storefronts are being refaced to look like the AC from the 20's, and the junk stores are little by little being replaced with high end stores. Atlantic City has an uphill task because there are so many homeless there and so much poverty, but I think their efforts have made a big difference already. Just look at the difference made with Ocean One mall, which was a dump, and now is the Pier at Caesar's, with the great free water show, great restaurants and great stores. Did you know they have chocolate covered Twinkies there? That alone makes it worth the drive, lol. Look at the outlets at the Walk, what a boon that was! They should have done this 20 years ago, but back then they didn't care what it was like outside the casinos, now they know they need to whole city to appeal to tourists and have made great strides IMO. This is one jersey-ite who does not see it as a black hole, but a place with tons to offer and hopefully gets the chance to continue to evolve.

P.S. the $2.00 games are starting at Resorts. Stay till night and go to Boogie Nights afterward, the best new club to open in the past 5 years!
AMEN! I <heart> Boogie Nights - might be there in February. Between that and the Pool at Harrah's, I'm now a fan of AC!
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Old 01-08-2010, 10:52 AM
 
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I think this will hurt AC. I think that AC would stand a chance if we can get sports books in AC! I don't go to AC. When I have money burning a hole in my pocket I head to Vegas. Their sports rooms seem to be a big hit!
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:15 PM
 
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I don't think it'll kill AC as long as AC fights to diversify its offerings ie (AC air show, conventions and such)

Vegas doesn't completely depend on its gambling money and AC shouldn't either. Though I agree AC should definitely get sports-betting going.

The immediate area off the Expy is trying to climb though. Remember the area around the Walk before the Walk was built? bleech
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:58 AM
 
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AC has been trying to get sports betting, but lawmakers are running into obstacles on the federal level. I wish they had it too (although I would have lost money on the Eagles last week!) as I don't play table games or slots (especially since they took all the fun out of the slots by replacing the dropping coins with slips of paper and the pull-down arms with buttons). Would be much more fun to put $20 on a game then sit in the bar and watch it!

They are expanding the airport big time to attract more out of state tourists. They used to have Spirit only, now they have Air Tran and a Canadian airline and you can fly to/from a lot of places now. It is by far my favorite airport, very easy in/out, and park like you're going to the mall or something. The next step is trains being added from the airport to AC. Until the recession, AC had 2 major casino developments on track that were going to be much more resort-like, but they are both on hold after the economic collapse.
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Old 01-09-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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I think they should also have trains going from ACY to Wildwood if they have planes coming from Canada (esp Quebec)
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Old 01-09-2010, 02:37 PM
 
Location: NJ Suburb of Philly (856)
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I do not think that Atlantic City will ever die, these PA casinos just do not offer the variety and nightlife of AC, lets not forget that the PA casinos are also missing the shore.
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