Christie announces 375 cuts and pension reform (Alpine: real estate, home, find a job)

[JERSEY MAN]

cut,cut,cut- I like someones post that said look at all you get for your money in NJ. I pay close to 20K in property taxes and I'm lucky if the garbage truck comes once a week. If he comes they look in it and god forbid you put a pizza box in it they drive away until next week without taken it. CUT,CUT,CUT. START NOWWWWWWW

[bababua]

Originally Posted by JERSEY MAN

cut,cut,cut- I like someones post that said look at all you get for your money in NJ. I pay close to 20K in property taxes and I'm lucky if the garbage truck comes once a week. If he comes they look in it and god forbid you put a pizza box in it they drive away until next week without taken it. CUT,CUT,CUT. START NOWWWWWWW

Wow, NJ must really stink for people like you. I always wondered if its soo bad you would have been long gone by now. Why not move to a state that would allow you to pay 1/4 of those taxes with the same services. Seems really strange that you would stay here. I guess in this world we dont have options. Your only option is to pay 20k in taxes.

[bababua]

NJ is getting really bad because on top of paying high taxes they have also figured out a way to create the human magnet. Its amazing you have people who love to complain about paying super high taxes yet they continue to stay. A person with any logic would just say move and keep more of your money if its soo bad here. Could it be that NJ is the only place that would allow them to make the salary they make therefore its better served they stay here? HMM, why dont these big wigs take those jobs in say New Mexico,Texas and see what they make in salary. Just a thought. I guess the human magnet works well.

[JERSEY MAN]

Originally Posted by bababua

Wow, NJ must really stink for people like you. I always wondered if its soo bad you would have been long gone by now. Why not move to a state that would allow you to pay 1/4 of those taxes with the same services. Seems really strange that you would stay here. I guess in this world we dont have options. Your only option is to pay 20k in taxes.

2 words-JOBS-FAMILY- My main complaint like many of the posters is, they pee money away and then they say were broke. Wait until the bill come in on the fed level if you think the state is bad.Christie was elected for one reason and that's to try to right the sinking ship. He has alot of ballast so he could probably level it off. The last 4 governors were snoozing. If he fails we throw him out too.

[njkate]

Originally Posted by JERSEY MAN

2 words-JOBS-FAMILY- My main complaint like many of the posters is, they pee money away and then they say were broke. Wait until the bill come in on the fed level if you think the state is bad.Christie was elected for one reason and that's to try to right the sinking ship. He has alot of ballast so he could probably level it off. The last 4 governors were snoozing. If he fails we throw him out too.

That's it in a nutshell JM....and some of these programs are broke because they robbed the funds to fund other frivolous bs....sooner or later the debts are coming due from the days of robbing Paul to pay Peter

[njkate]

Can only speak for Morris County...here is what each school district will lose because of the cuts...amazes me how some districts have $$$$$$$ surplus while others have next to nothing

http://www.dailyrecord.com/assets/pdf/C0151764211.PDF

[JERSEY MAN]

Originally Posted by njkate

Can only speak for Morris County...here is what each school district will lose because of the cuts...amazes me how some districts have $$$$$$$ surplus while others have next to nothing

http://www.dailyrecord.com/assets/pdf/C0151764211.PDF

Them school districts should not have that money. That money is from the taxpayers, they shouldn't have taken it from them in the first place if they don't need it to run day to day operations. One town was sitting on 7 mill in taxpayer money. Go figure

[Mightyqueen801]

Originally Posted by zhelder

THIS is exactly where we need to trim the budgets, not by cutting the paychecks/benefits of hardworking employees.

My first year of teaching in my district, I had this exact same argument. The social studies department at my school was thinking about buying a new TV, and in one of those ridiculous catalogs, it was like $800. I said, "Hey, we can get the same set at 6th Avenue Electronics for about $250. Why spend $800? "

Well I got a good drubbing about "state approved vendors" and a bunch of other ridiculous nonsense. It made no sense then, and it makes less sense now.

Forcing employees to pay for health benefits is simply going to make the unions hold out for larger percentage increases in raises. And in a state where starter homes still sell for nearly 500K in decent towns (if they're available at all) and the taxes on those homes often top 10K per year, even public workers at the top of their guides are not living in the lap of luxury.

There are plenty of ways to cut state spending. It shouldn't be done on the backs of public employees.

Nothing wrong with state approved vendors--IF they are approved as the result of a fair and competitive process and prices negotiated down to the bone. And controls in place so that anyone with a conflict of interest with any state employee is not eligible...this pay-to-play Mod cut is a sin.

[njkate]

Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801

Nothing wrong with state approved vendors--IF they are approved as the result of a fair and competitive process and prices negotiated down to the bone. And controls in place so that anyone with a conflict of interest with any state employee is not eligible...this pay-to-play Mod cutis a sin.

Government agencies should have to be in SOX compliance like private business..lots of stop gaps in place

[BergenCountyJohnny]

Originally Posted by JERSEY MAN

2 words-JOBS-FAMILY- :

They don't have Jobs outside of NJ? Your family (wife, kids) can't live outside of NJ? Doesn't sound right to me. Your only option is to pay 20k in property taxes??? What do you live in a McMansion in Alpine??? I live in Northern Bergen County in an average home and pay well less than half that in taxes. And my garbagemen aren't picky about who throws what in what bin (although I wish they were and started issuing fines to people who mix garbage). And they come around 3, 4 days a week.