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eventually if they dont stop this system the only ones left in NJ will be the unions, and they can pay for themselves. I think people have had enough. So take it and be glad its not anymore.
I'm surprised that you want to stop "the system" in favor of doing things more like the systems in the (Southern?) states. If we do that, then NJ will become a (rural?) state. I guess a lot of people want to save a few bucks today even at the cost of becoming a state of (small-town folk?) tomorrow.
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sorry I think these are all good ideas! We need to do whats best for the state and cut the spending, you dont want a California mess do you? These wont affect the teachers who were there for along time too much. Its mostly new ones coming into the system correct?? I think these ideas are great!!!!! I wish you luck and things are still pretty good for you and keep doing a great job. I do respect good teachers.
Get rid of this recession proof public sector with annual 4 percent raises and no contribution for health car
Get rid of this recession proof public sector with annual 4 percent raises and no contribution for health car
OK. When time are good and people in the private sector are getting their salaries doubled or matched with bonuses, do the same for us public employees.
I don't think I'll ever shed a tear for any teacher who voted for Christie and now regrets it and has complaints. In fact, my feeling about those folks is the opposite of shedding tears (except maybe from laughing so hard). Teachers who voted for Christie deserve everything that he gives them.
I So agree. Christie made it perfectly clear during his campaign.
OK. When time are good and people in the private sector are getting their salaries doubled or matched with bonuses, do the same for us public employees.
Who is that happening for?
Government jobs pay better than private sector jobs here. Ability to retire at 50, no contribution for health insurance, and defined benefit pensions, and you still have your hand out.
I'm surprised that you want to stop "the system" in favor of doing things more like the systems in the (Southern?) states. If we do that, then NJ will become a (rural?) state. I guess a lot of people want to save a few bucks today even at the cost of becoming a state of (small-town folk?) tomorrow.
"The system" has bankrupted the state. The gravy train has lost it's wheels.
"The system" has bankrupted the state. The gravy train has lost it's wheels.
Wrong. Christie Whitman bankrupted the state when she dipped into the system (which was fine for all the years it was left alone) so that she could play Santa Claus and send everyone rebates and cut taxes and spending as if she had the resources to do so when in fact she raided the pension fund, essentially stealing that money for her own political gain.
And why do you say that our military, who lay their lives on the line to defend our freedom, are basically on welfare and getting handouts? You never answered when I asked you that earlier.
And why is Gov. Christie collecting a salary? Why doesn't he cut his own salary and benefits???
Government jobs pay better than private sector jobs here. Ability to retire at 50, no contribution for health insurance, and defined benefit pensions, and you still have your hand out.
Wrong. Christie Whitman bankrupted the state when she dipped into the system (which was fine for all the years it was left alone) so that she could play Santa Claus and send everyone rebates and cut taxes and spending as if she had the resources to do so when in fact she raided the pension fund, essentially stealing that money for her own political gain.
And why do you say that our military, who lay their lives on the line to defend our freedom, are basically on welfare and getting handouts? You never answered when I asked you that earlier.
And why is Gov. Christie collecting a salary? Why doesn't he cut his own salary and benefits???
Whitman didnt dip into anything. She issued pension obligation bonds to plug the hole in the budget caused precisely by the ridiculous pension obligation this state has.
This can never happen with the 401K the rest of us get.
OK. When time are good and people in the private sector are getting their salaries doubled or matched with bonuses, do the same for us public employees.
Do you have a source for that figure ? That number is not typical in the private sector. Not even all financial sector employees get bonus equal to their base pay (though it's common among investment bankers).
The median salary in NJ went up by about 20% during the housing bubble, while property tax revenue went up by 50% or so.
What Christie is trying to do is bring costs back down to earth, and at the very least stall a trend where the public sector is outgrowing the private sector. It would be nice if there were an easy and painless way to achieve this, but there isn't.
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